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You think Ramsdale/Raya/White/Zinchenko/Jesus/Martinelli etc get in to the starting eleven of those teams? No chance, they wouldn't get in to our team (Liverpool)
Saka, Saliba, Odegaard and Rice are not far off but not convinced any of them are in the top 5 of each position.
I don't think any of them look out of place in those teams.
Raya and Ramsdale both play very similarly to Ederson, Zinchenko and Jesus literally did play for city, Martinelli is just as good as Gnabry for example.
I'm not saying that they're all world class, I was more talking about the way he defined world class.
Raya and Ramsdale, particularly Ramsdale are miles below Ederson/Alisson. City got rid of both cheap because they weren't good enough for them. Martinelli is a bit hit and miss but he's got huge potential, just like Saka.
World class should really be players who would get in to the best teams but I don't think any of them would. It's a huge compliment to Arsenal and Arteta that it's the team that is performing so well rather than individuals.
Liverpool weren't part of the question but I definitely don't think they're that far below Ederson in the slightest.
Understand that but Alisson is the benchmark now for world class keepers, just like Salah is for RW.
Watching Ramsdale in particular he just doesn't have that quality on the ball needed to be the best now.