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How many in the arsenal squad are world class? Define WC and list:

For me world class means the player would not look out of place starting for Citeh, Barca, RM or Bayern.

Saliba , Saka, Odegaard and Rice.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You think Ramsdale/Raya/White/Zinchenko/Jesus/Martinelli etc get in to the starting eleven of those teams? No chance, they wouldn't get in to our team (Liverpool)

Saka, Saliba, Odegaard and Rice are not far off but not convinced any of them are in the top 5 of each position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think any of them look out of place in those teams.

Raya and Ramsdale both play very similarly to Ederson, Zinchenko and Jesus literally did play for city, Martinelli is just as good as Gnabry for example.

I'm not saying that they're all world class, I was more talking about the way he defined world class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Raya and Ramsdale, particularly Ramsdale are miles below Ederson/Alisson. City got rid of both cheap because they weren't good enough for them. Martinelli is a bit hit and miss but he's got huge potential, just like Saka.

World class should really be players who would get in to the best teams but I don't think any of them would. It's a huge compliment to Arsenal and Arteta that it's the team that is performing so well rather than individuals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Raya and Ramsdale, particularly Ramsdale are miles below Ederson/Alisson

Liverpool weren't part of the question but I definitely don't think they're that far below Ederson in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Understand that but Alisson is the benchmark now for world class keepers, just like Salah is for RW.

Watching Ramsdale in particular he just doesn't have that quality on the ball needed to be the best now.