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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I doubt any big, mainstream western corporations would use GeForce cards for AI, even if they have the same amount of vRAM as workstation cards (and they'd never have the same memory as AI-specific cards such as the H100). Hobbyists will for sure, but they make up such a tiny portion of the market that I doubt it would change the overall demand. Chinese and Russian companies will, I guess, but I don't think that would have the same effect as crypto mining, which has immediate returns without any expertise for individual users, unlike AI applications.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Plenty of people using 4090s tho

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, even though Nvidia removed NVLink it’s still a popular card for deep learning coz it’s relatively cheap for small labs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

NVLink died because PCIE Gen5 can handle incorrect now, no external hardware needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

PCIe 5.0 cannot do what NVLink does, and NVLink isn’t dead at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

NVLink is no longer supported on the Ada Lovelace GPU architecture that powers Nvidia's flagship RTX 4090 graphics. Replacing NVLink is the PCIe Gen 5 standard. Nvidia will use the freed up space from the removal of NVLink to cram in more AI processing capabilities.

https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/computers-desktops/nvidia-kills-off-nvlink-on-rtx-4090#:~:text=NVLink%20is%20no%20longer%20supported,in%20more%20AI%20processing%20capabilities.

The RTX A6000 ADA also drops nvlink. No idea why the downvotes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hobbyists, sure. Startups, maybe (from what I've seen, they're far more likely to rent a server or something). Mainstream corporations, definitely not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I doubt any big, mainstream western corporations would use GeForce cards for AI

Why wouldn't they?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nvidia has things like the A series for this sort of stuff, and at their level of use they'll be buying at a distributor or direct from manufacturer level depending on size.

Some small places will want 4090s and things though, and then yeah maybe they'll buy from stores and that but I doubt that'll be enough to kick demand up and cause prices like the crypto boom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

There’s no advantage of the A series unless you plan to use the unique virtual GPU features. Nvidia added a toggle for the 4090 to make use of ECC, which apparently the memory can already do, to turn it into a professional card with less VRAM. It’s otherwise nearly identical to the A series cards, minus the NVLINK to connector two A series cards together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Official support, drivers, bulk orders direct from Nvidia, staying on Nvidia's good side

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Doesn’t matter what western companies would do, matters that countries accounting for a billion+ people and second largest economy would use them.