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Jamie Carragher: That is not a penalty! - Did VAR make the right call? (www.skysports.com)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

First penalty is never a penalty, Semedo gets the ball first and then the tiniest touch on Cairney. Having seen the replay I immediately thought it'd be overturned and would be absolutely furious if it was given against us.

Second penalty imo is a penalty. The Wolves player gets none of the ball and his knee clips Wilson's knee. It's a foul, I can see why the ref didn't give it as the angle he had doesn't show the contact however Wilson gets ahead of the Wolves player and gets caught.

However, fouls like that resulting in penalties feels so ridiculously harsh. There was no danger and he was going away from goal. Giving the attacking side a goal scoring opportunity for free is way too big a "reward" for things like that. I wouldn't be against a change in the rules where penalties are only given if a goalscoring opportunity is denied, otherwise it's an indirect free kick. Yes it would add a bit more subjectivity into it but it would also stop attacking players going for balls like this (and also the Cairney one) when they know that if they get a touch on the ball and get slightly clipped then odds are it's a goal. Tiny inconsequential fouls in the penalty area just shouldn't be a 75/80% chance at a goal.

Vinicius should have been sent off, for the third time this season, for violent conduct. If he never plays for us again it'd be a day too soon.

All in all we got damn lucky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

As much as I like your idea about the penalties, they is so much subjectiveness as it is, it will just lead to more bad calls.

As a neutral, neither Fulham pens looked a pen, if it was given for Arsenal I'd think those are fortunate and lucky calls.

And the second wasn't given on field, they isn't clear and obvious error, if the first isn't over ruled neither should the second.

Lack of consistency within one game is shocking.

The ref isn't to blame in any of this, it's all on the stupid VAR.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't be against a change in the rules where penalties are only given if a goalscoring opportunity is denied

Ewww this is horrible.

Don't add more subjectivity to the game when that's the issue that we're already facing.

Players know they cannot jump in inside the box, and if they do they need to be 100% sure they get the ball first.

If you're trying to make a tackle against a player inside the box who is going nowhere, you're just an idiot imo.

I don't support either team just for context.