DeGoogle Yourself

8856 readers

79 users here now

A community for those that would like to get away from Google.

Here you may post anything related to DeGoogling, why we should do it or good software alternatives!

Rules

Be respectful even in disagreement
No advertising unless it is very relevent and justified. Do not do this excessively.
No low value posts / memes. We or you need to learn, or discuss something.

Related communities

[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]

founded 4 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

548

Google is putting ads in gmail. WTF? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago by 257m to c/[email protected]

226 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Why would anyone use this over Proton Mail or the gazillion alternatives if it treats people like shit.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s also not altruistic to pay more for to subsidize in the manner you are alluding too since it misses the larger picture of how these wide free tiers have allowed contemporary services to gobble up users to impress investors with growth despite loss-leading products (in code forges look at the publicly-traded GitLab free model vs. SourceHut where everyone pays a small amount to keep servers running (post-beta plan)).

My affordable provider encrypts their servers & the account storage just fine without needing to reinvent the old, tested protocol (might just be a ZFS pool encryption passphrase). But it isn’t security/privacy that’s in question but the accessibility of this standardized protocols with years of tooling built around it & a business model that I don’t think is sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s also not altruistic to pay more for to subsidize in the manner you are alluding too

Whether something is altruistic or not is more of a philosophical debate.

Fact of the matter remains that unprivileged people using PM for free is only possible because us paying users pay at least slightly more. I don't care whether that's altruistic or not.

My affordable provider encrypts their servers & the account storage just fine without needing to reinvent the old, tested protocol

That's nice but that's just simple disk encryption at rest. That's not at all comparable to zero-access encryption. Please read the Link in my last reply.