this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2023
122 points (76.1% liked)

Technology

59689 readers
2520 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Blade Runner director Ridley Scott calls AI a "technical hydrogen bomb" | "we are all completely f**ked"::undefined

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They’re not even really AI.

sigh. Can we please stop this shitty argument?

They are. In a very broad sense. They are just not AGI.

[–] remus989 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you but this argument is never gonna go away.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's never going to go away. AI is like the "god of the gaps" - as more and more tasks can be performed by computers to the same or better level compared to humans, what exactly constitutes intelligence will shrink until we're saying, "sure, it can compose a symphony that people prefer to Mozart, and it can write plays that are preferred over Shakespeare, and paint better than van Gogh, but it can't nail references to the 1991 TV series Dinosaurs so can we really call it intelligent??"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So much this. Most people under 40 must have grown up with video games. Shouldn't they have noticed at some point that the enemies and NPCs are AI-controlled? Some games even say that in the settings.

I don't see the point in the expression "AGI" either. There's a fundamental difference between the if-else AI of current games and the ANNs behind LLMs. But there is no fundamental change needed to make an ANN-AI that is more general. At what point along that continuum do we talk of AGI? Why should that even be a goal in itself? I want more useful and energy-efficient software tools. I don't care if it meets any kind of arbitrary definition.