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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point of reducing gun availability isn't to reduce instances of violence, it's to reduce the carnage after it. The force multiplying effect of a knife is significantly less than most guns.

If we assume people are violent and dangerous, then we should limit the damage they can do.

[–] MomoTimeToDie -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If thsr were true, would we not see significantly higher rats of homicide and the like when guns are more prevalent? Or even any notable change whatsoever?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We do see that trend though. Compare the homicide rates of the U.S. with European countries.

[–] MomoTimeToDie -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh, yes. Because there's absolutely zero other differences between countries. If you had a valid point and not just bullshit, countries like Switzerland and Finland would be the murder capitals of Europe and not some of the safest, no?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're the one who asked this question:

If thsr were true, would we not see significantly higher rats of homicide and the like when guns are more prevalent?

To which the answer is yes, we see significantly high rates of homicide where guns are more prevalent.

If you had a valid point and not just bullshit, countries like Switzerland and Finland would be the murder capitals of Europe and not some of the safest, no?

So you're saying we should move our gun law to be closer in line with those two countries? I agree! Let's start by instituting Finland's requirement for a gun license to be able to own a gun.

[–] MomoTimeToDie 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To which the answer is yes, we see significantly high rates of homicide where guns are more prevalent

Yeah, except you're literally just lieing out your ass.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The U.S. has 120 guns for every 100 people, and a homicide rate or 6 per 100,000.

Finland has 32 guns for every 100 people, and a homicide rate of 1.6 per 100,000

Germany has 20 guns for every 100 people, and a homicide rate of 0.8 per 100,000.

The U.S. has the most lax gun law, followed by Finland. Germany is by far the most strict of these three. I didn't pull this information out of my ass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

[–] MomoTimeToDie 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how you link datasets that basically have zero correction whatsoever when actually analyzed. Ty for proving my point

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then put in the work and show you're correct with a dataset you trust.

[–] MomoTimeToDie -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally linked it. I'm not opening fucking excel for an internet argument with a troll

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Then stop complaining over data sources that you can't be bothered to look at.