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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can extract lithium from ocean water, you know? Nothing else in an LFP battery is rare, and we've got sodium batteries starting to roll out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also extract hydrogen from water. Except now it's not an insanely impractical idea. Sodium batteries haven't been invented yet, and will have a much lower energy density.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean... you can order some right now if you want. Their energy density isn't that bad.

They're in the production ramp phase, not the hoping for future technology phase like hydrogen fuel cells and hydrogen storage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The link is dead.

You have an inverted view of reality. Hydrogen fuel cells are a now technology. Your idea don’t exist outside of science projects and underwhelming early demonstration versions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just clicked it and it works. There's a bunch of sodium ion batteries for sale.

The current fuel cells that waste most of the energy and are manufactured in very small numbers for pilot programs are exactly what I'd describe as underwhelming early demonstration versions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Now it is working.

But it doesn't matter. Those are hoax products. None of them exist in the real world. You can't actually buy them, or they are secretly some other type of battery. No one has actually seen a working sodium-ion battery in public.

Fuel cells are already in mass production. Again, you are simply living in the early 2000s on this subject. You are wildly outdated on your knowledge.