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Will this be overkill or otherwise not recommended for someone who is new and just starting to learn?

My goal is to have something I can grow into, but initially I'd like to host a few VMs, game servers, and a have place to store content. I'd also like to host a PLEX server in the future as well but might buy a separate piece of hardware for it specifically down the road. Thanks in advance for taking the time to help a newbie!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (18 children)

The mini PC crowd will inevitably come in and shit on anything bigger than a matchbox that uses more than 1w.

They're not 100% wrong: power consumption is a factor but there's also a time and a place for rack servers. That time and place is when you have (or are looking to get) a rack and are looking for rock solid reliable hardware with lots of cores and hotswap storage bays, and running game servers is definitely somewhere the low core counts of mini PCs falls down.

That said, in 2023 it's probably not worth spending money on anything older than an E5 v4.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A 12/13 generation NUC with 64GB RAM eats most of those very outdated servers alive.

And storage you can easily put into a NAS with SFP+ slots.

pro argument for 10+ year racks are:

  • if you have free energy
  • heating included
  • direct attached storage for performance tasks (you can get around that easily with multiple NVMe - not in a NUC though)
  • looks professional
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You forgot the last one

- Cool AF

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you link a $400 NUC (with 64GB RAM) that eats this server alive? (With also CPU benchmarks?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Running costs are a thing unless you have free energy as posted before or mama pays for it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I had mini's and NUC... only problem I had was true out of band management. Intel AMT was ok ish... but not a candle to ilo idrac. I have a T330 with 64gb idling at 55w with true remote management I can hide it away.

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