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What are your major criticisms of the framework laptop? (alien.top)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I am considering a purchase as a student although it is really expensive.

What are your major criticisms of the framework laptop?

E.g.

- I have heard that it discharges battery even while powered off (a very serious issue IMO).

Also, I will be using win10/11 and fedora most likely. So any Linux-related issues (e.g. hardware support) I would really like to know.

Thanks for any ideas.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Missing home/ end/ PgUp/ down keys is actually the biggest reason why I still haven't bought one. I just don't want to take the risk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I am curious, what is your use case for those ? When do you use those ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

All the time in programming. Jump to the start/end of the line, quickly scrolling through logfiles, source files, documentation etc.

Yes, most of them can probably be replaced by some other key combination. But it will be a different shortcut for each tool, and I don't feel like remembering multiple combinations just to navigate a file using a keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Acccount gone, weird. Fn +those keys and you have them again. With linux yiu maybe can swap em. Wonder if my framebook bios allow to swap the default.

I have no issues with my framework keyboard. Love it. I dislike ghe windows logo, could have been a gear or tux but ow well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you replied to the wrong comment. I was asking what was the use case for Pg Up/Down and Home/End that prevented OP to buy a Framework

Personally, I tend to use vim modes everywhere so I don't really need those but I always thought that on a laptop they were too far away to be useful anyhoo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know, sadly that user is gone and wanted to reply. Its a good question you have, cause i have a fw and my left hand holds Fn, right hand does what page up or home or end i need to press. You know what i miss? The pause button. Kinda wish i could swap default fn function but at ghe same time, im ok with this arrangement. Nonidea why OP of this subthread doesnt go for a dedicated keyboard or ghe FW16 with full keyboard mod.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ok ok. I thought you were the another account of the same person

Uh, I have a fw13 12th and f5 is actually a play/pause button

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Not to speak for the previous poster, but I use these all the time in my web browser and in PDF-viewing software (evince). They're pretty useful.