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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be completely normal to take injured hostages/prisoners to a hospital, and keep them under guard. In fact it's the required action in international law.

So no the presence of a couple bodies in the morgue and a few guys with AKs doesn't prove shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You literally chose the most biased source to get your information from and are surprised when all they find are "a handful of weapons and a laptop."

Yeah bud, they found a lot more then that, and no the people who committed the biggest Jewish genocide since the holocaust PROBABY weren't thinking of required action in international law

You are 100% the type of intellectual to think that silence or eventual banal agreement toward you is genuine and not a placation to avoid someone who never learned how to be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did you really just compare 1400 deaths to the Holocaust? What about the 10,000 Gazans? Are they not human enough for you?

And, no. Even CNN is running articles saying there needs to be more evidence.

Since launching its operation at the hospital on November 15, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have shown images of a tunnel shaft and military equipment, but have yet to show conclusive proof of the large-scale command and control center it alleges is there.

-CNN

Senior U.S. officials said Friday that they remained confident that Hamas and Palestinian militants had been operating under the complex of Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, even as the Israeli military has struggled to produce proof to back its assertion that Hamas was using the hospital and its patients as human shields.

-New York Times

And I just went to go find those. I've been looking directly at the videos Israel released. Which are ridiculous on their face.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I did because it was the truth, and there's no need to resort to whataboutism on the Israel/palastiniane crisis of all things. Yes I think 10,000 gazan deaths is awful, to try to just compare the situation based on numbers alone is just another manipulation, that would really only work on children. So you're essentially a bully who tells himself it's for a good cause.

That type of wording is incredibly common with publications trying to keep a poise of neutrality, as it is true that more evidence would clarify the situation. They aren't denying the proof, they're simply saying more will be needed, as any neutral publication would. Here's a much more relavant snippet,

"The White House has backed Israel’s claims, saying that Hamas was storing weapons and operating a command node from Al-Shifa, citing US intelligence."

My bias is trusting telescopes about 100x the strength of hubble pointed back at the earth's surface. I think it's a pretty fair bias but I guess we'll see, I doubt this is a repeat of" guaranteed nuclear weapons" but obviously there's potential.

Everyone is awful in the I/P crisis, an objective observer with the full backgroun will always, always side with Israel. The plight of the modern palastinian child is literally the only objectionable part of this and Hamas will continue to use this until they are replaced with another religious dictatorship.

Because with friends like you, eternally echoing the idea of their complete innocence, there's about a 0% chance palestine is getting any less fueled by holy war anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So the Palestinians are just numbers to you. Great. Thanks for the confirmation.

The last time the world took the White House's word on intelligence without seeing the proof, we ended up with a 20 year hangover. You don't get to handwave war crimes. You either have the evidence or you don't. And before you say they need time to explore the tunnels, this is what robots are for. They even give a convenient video feed and if they get blown up then oh well, it was a robot. The entire assertion that they need time for soldier safety is bullshit.

Objective observers don't accept war crimes without immediate mitigating evidence. Make believe graphics and maintenance tunnel hatches aren't it. Neither is common middle eastern security guard equipment.

Also, you'll notice I've never said Hamas was innocent. But only one side in this war is actively committing genocide.