Home Automation

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Home automation is the residential extension of building automation.

It is automation of the home, housework or household activity.

Home automation may include centralized control of lighting, HVAC (heating, ventilation and air conditioning), appliances, security locks of gates and doors and other systems, to provide improved convenience, comfort, energy efficiency and security.

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Fire Alarm / House Fan Integration (alien.top)

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I hope to direct this question to fire fighters or other experts in the field. My home has a networked fire alarm that activates all of the alarms if one detects smoke. It is also tied in to my home automation system so that I can get alerts, etc. My home also has a large poweful whole house fan. I don't know the rating, but it gets the house aired out pretty quickly. I have seen house fires in the past where the fire fighters put large fans in the window - presumably to get the smoke out as quickly as possible. My question is therefore does it make sense to automate my house fan to turn on when the fire alarm activates, or would this be a bad idea and potentially make the fire worse? Any expert thoughts on this are appreciated.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

25 years as a volunteer firefighter, almost half as an officer / Chief.

Don't do it.

When the fire department puts a fan in the door, or opens windows, or cuts a hole in the roof it's for specific reasons, and there's one thing in common on all of them: the fire department is on scene!

If we're putting a fan in the door it's either to exhaust the smoke after the fire has been extinguished, or it's to try and clear smoke while the attack team is putting the fire out. The latter is an advanced technique that isn't practised by all departments, because if the fire isn't out you're giving it air and making it bigger.

Cutting holes in the roof is normally done to try and get the smoke out while we're putting the fire out. The location of the hole is important and the fire will move towards the hole, as someone mentioned "the chimney effect". We only cut the hole when there's water on the fire, or it's ready to be. Again, it will make the fire grow so we have to be in a position to deal with it. Removing the smoke cuts down on the chance of a flashover or a smoke explosion ("backdraft").

When the fire alarm goes off in commercial buildings it should be cutting the HVAC so that It doesn't move toxic smoke through the building. (a) it will kill the occupants, and (b) it then makes it more difficult to find the source.

If your whole-house fan isn't on when your smoke detectors activate then leave it off. If it is on, and you can tie it into your smoke detectors, then it would be a good idea to turn it off. If the fire department get there and it's something dumb like someone burned the toast or, even worse, the bacon!, and there's a light haze through the house then you can tell the incident commander that you have a whole house fan and can turn that on to get the smoke out.

If you're reading this and you don't have a whole-house fan, and you do something dumb like burning toast, or bacon, or another culinary mishap (current jargon for "burned food"), don't feel bad about calling for the fire department. It happens every day, we're only too happy to come and do it, we have the tools and the training for it. It;s not really dumb, but it's still dumb.