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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be clear, if some criminal has human hostages you're fine if the building they are in is torched?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Curious to know if you think shooting down United 93 on 9/11 would have been the right thing to do or not? (had the US Airforce got there in time). What say you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be clear, if some criminal has human hostages you're fine if the building they are in is torched?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You are the seventh person to not answer the question..

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will the criminals take more hostage if we don't act? Are the hostage takers willing to return the hostages safely? Is it feasible to attempt a rescue operation that doesn't just put many more at risk? Does this criminal organization's continued existence have a human life cost to it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So you think it's okay to burn down a hospital if it means stopping Hamas? Even if the hospital has babies in incubators?

Remind me, what was plastered on ads and social media from Israel earlier last month? Something about dead babies... what was it again?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the same thing. The hostage takers in your example are only posing a danger to the hostages themselves. There is no outside harm caused by deciding not to act. Hamas on the other hand poses a real danger to Israel. Not counter attacking Hamas would result in attacks on Israeli citizens, so Israel has to act. Hamas is using the hospital as an unethical way of shielding itself from such counter attacks because they know Western war philosophy aims to minimize civilian casualties, so attacks on hospitals hurt Israels global support. However, by operating from within a hospital, Hamas are making the hospital a valid military target. Minimizing civilian casualties goes both ways. You don't attack hospitals unless they are a valid military target and you don't set up military operations inside hospitals so as to prevent them from becoming valid military targets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

To be clear, you think it's okay to attack a hospital, even ones with babies on incubators?

Remind me, what was Israel plastering on ads and social media earlier last month? Something about Hamas beheading babies?