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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Considering Portugal were shit until 96, it's quite a good result

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We weren't that shit, qualifying was harsher than it is now and we were unlucky a few times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You were shit compared to now. You only qualified twice to the world cup prior to 2002 and qualified to every WC since then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

People on this sub would have you believe that we only became good because of Ronaldo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I mean... 26/39 games here had Ronaldo in the squad. Portugal did well in the 84 and 00 euros though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

In ‘04 CR7 was a secondary player. Portugal would be one of the favorites with or without him especially considering it was a home turf

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

2004 euro they were in the finals with the Greece

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I mean... 26/39 games here had Ronaldo in the squad.

Do I really need to point out the problem with this logic? I genuinely mean that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

3/17 WC qualification prior to ronaldo and 5/5 with Ronaldo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think it's more due to the fact of improving academies and getting football / coaching / tactical periodization taught in college concluding in a general evolution of portuguese football instead of just relying on mid foreign players just because it's cheaper.

Also developing coaches such as José Mourinho, Jorge Jesus, André Villas-Boas, Bruno Lage, Luís Castro, Vítor Pereira, Abel Ferreira, Marco Silva, Sérgio Conceição, Jesualdo Ferreira, Carlos Carvalhal or Leonardo Jardim which consequently led to developing players such as Costinha, Maniche, Tiago, Pepe, Ricardo Carvalho, Moutinho, Meireles, Bosingwa, Nani, Quaresma, Coentrão, Danilo, William, Nelson Semedo, Ruben Dias, Joao Cancelo, Bernardo Silva, Diogo Dalot, Nuno Mendes, Bruno Fernandes, João Palhinha, Ruben Neves, João Félix, Vitinha, Matheus Nunes, Rafael Leão, etc etc etc

I wonder if this had something to do with Portugal's recent success. But I don't think so, it probably was because of Ronaldo, sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe not because of but certainly improved since/during. He was already there in 96 I believe, and has been ever since.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You were shit compared to now. You only qualified twice to the world cup prior to 2002 but qualified to every WC since then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, that's right. But the reason we became good was not Ronaldo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not that we were just shit. It's also that it was harder to qualify. Between 1960 and 1992, only 8 or less teams qualified. The enlargement of the tournament allowed us to participate more times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You were shit. You only qualified twice to the world cup prior to 2002.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

We have 19 wins and only 2 of those were after winning against Czechia in the 2012 QFs