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If they have enough "broken" 5800X3Ds to still release 2 new SKUs after 5600X3D, why did they limit the release of 5600X3D to only Microcenter? Or was 5600X3D a Microcenter-only product to test if there was enough demand? As a European I really want to see these cheaper 5000X3D CPUs here.
the clock speed on the 5600x3d is higher than ether of these, that may be part of it. but i do suspect it was to test the waters too
It might also be a very limited quantity of 5700x3D & 5500x3D chips
Launching the 5600x3d was always about controlling the price of 5800x3d. AMD did the same thing with the GRE series - the 7900 GRE was launched to halt the slide of 7900XT prices. And now that too has a bunch of volume after all.
I said that when it was originally launched and people got real upset but there was never a stream of defective 6c dies to begin with, stacking happens after binning so they know it’s defective or not, and failures during stacking isn’t really a real thing that leaves you with any amount of functional cores. But people leaned on the microcenter dude saying it was a yield sku.
Nor is it a failure of clocks etc. AMD doesn’t have any 6c zen3d epyc SKUs. They do have 2c and 4c stacks but they only made 6c stacks for the 5600x3d in the first pla - it was literally manufactured from scratch for the 5600x3d.
People are dumb and put way too much faith in marketing statements.
It's not uncommon for functioning dies to be cut down for market segmentation purposes. Intel had segmentation down to a science in the pre-Ryzen days. Like disabling hyperthreading and reducing cache for Core i5. Probably was rarely necessary because of actual defects, yet half or more of the chips got sold as some cut down variant, even when Intel's yields were great.
Yh a more budget friendly x3d would buy me instantly.
You'll pay a 50% markup on all tech and you'll like it, okay!
Its cheaper in Europe usually.
Tech prices are always cheaper in the US and always have been.
dont forget that prices in EU already have the VAT included, so yes, usually they are cheaper but not really by that much. (exceptions happen ofc)
Bro, MSRP of items usually goes $499 and then £499 for example, which is already $620. Then they never actually sell at MSRP in the EU and are always inflated on top of that. This is common knowledge to anyone who lives outside of the US.
I can search on Amazon right now for a 4080 for example and the exact same model is over $100 cheaper on Amazon.com
Margins. The yield rate on the zen3 chiplets is stupid high so the 'bad' ones are mostly 5600x etc and then when you combine that with x3d they must have a very small pool...
In the past AMD has answered high demand for lower SKU CPUs by down clocking their higher CPUs to the lower CPU's speed or by disabling cores. It's possible that the demand for the 5800X3D isn't high enough for them to get rid of their existing stock so they're doing that with those CPUs.