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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why not just have a small cheap space heater that lasts forever and for light source, the LED?

[–] slackassassin 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because a light bulb is just a mini space heater, and it does the job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

But you'd have to replace it often. The space heater can also have frost guard so it will turn on when the temperature goes down. Imo it's the better option

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Show me this magic space heater that's cheaper than 12 light bulbs and lasts that long.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.jula.se/catalog/bygg-och-farg/varme-och-ventilation/uppvarmning/frostvakter/frostvakt-417013/

Looks like crap, they discontinued the better variant (200 W) that was cheaper.

https://www.jula.se/catalog/bygg-och-farg/varme-och-ventilation/uppvarmning/varmeflaktar/varmeflakt-015181/

I don't know what 12 old bulbs cost, but I know the life expectancy was about 1000h or so. I wouldn't pick it anyhow, the heater is cheap as dirt

Edit: actually a 60 W old bulb is 101 SEK

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

200 euro or kroner or whatever they use for a fire starter of massive overkill vs a light bulb, which lasts far more than 1000 hrs especially if not switched off n on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, you have insulted my currency, I think? Guess I have to fold and agree that an old bulb with a rated lifetime of about 1000 hours, realistically 800 hours, and an anecdotal lifetime of 1000000 hours is the better option. (Notice my use of sarcasm)

Especially as it's half the price of a product made to guard against frost that lasts basically forever. Because on the north American continent, it is much cheaper to have something that you just run day in and day out instead of only when needed. How much is 400 kWh in CAD? You can figure it out, but don't bother replying, or do, I don't control you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure you're just kinda dumb at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Canada ain't nothing for cheap. Except the light bulb.

Jokes aside until Amazon started bringing us cheap crap there was no practical low cost alternative, aside from gutting a coffee pot or something. I fixed an old water trough once that was heated by a 240v stove element brazed to the stubs of the old 120v one that had burned out. 2kW / 4 = 500W which is about the right power level for this job.

Stove element from the dump $0, Canarm watering bowl element $70

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually I agree, it's a pretty good source of heating elements. I've scavenged from some old toasters and sandwich iron