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Stop right there.
we cannot mobilize against another NATO member
Ukraine isn't a NATO member, and sadly our legal obligation is a matter of political debate. We are winning the debate, but it's slow, and political opponents plan to use this support of a state they don't value as a means to seize control on the next election
even our hands-off, here-are-guns involvement is not without complaint and scrutiny.
The truth is, we forgot that Russia rules by its strength and we obviously have no clause about belligerent invasions terminating membership. And while Russia is a.member of NATO, no one will consider invading.
...which is good, as the only thing Russia spent its money on was its military. It's like America, but with more corruption and less money to throw around.
This proxy war is already too much while it's also not enough. It's going to ruin our current leaders and plunge us into a populist nightmare the likes of which we've been seeing in America for a decade. Let's not be more idiots voting without the facts, as we already have enough of those to damn us.
... Russia isn't a member of NATO
Uhhh, Russia isn’t in NATO.. it’s quite literally the enemy of NATO.
The NATO alliance was created so countries could protect one another from Russia’s military. When the USSR still existed, they responded by creating the Warsaw Pact, which consisted of countries on or near their border with Europe. In the time since the USSR collapsed, several former Warsaw Pact countries have joined NATO.
Russia absolutely despises NATO, and always has. Putin has used the expansion of NATO as one of his excuses for invading Ukraine (he claims to see NATO as a threat, but since the NATO treaty is purely defensive, I don’t understand his reasoning there).