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Friend gave me access to his Adobe account (I'm never giving Adobe money again), and it looks like they don't even support Firefox. That means I'm not using even the one remaining browser-based Adobe service that's left.

Adobe forcing you to use Chrome instead of Firefox to use their service

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That’s why no one outside Google wants it. Apple said no. Firefox said no. There’s a reason. WebRTC is shit. It leaks too much just for a small convenience.

And yeah, browsers don’t need my USB ports thanks.

This move was what hurt VIA as they moved to the API exclusively. So the only native apps are just electron wrappers 🤷‍♂️

Edit: Looks like Mozilla said yes after all heavy sigh: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebUSB_API

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

At the end we have Flash + ActiveX alltogether again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WebRTC and WebUSB are different things. RTC doesn't provide direct port access, afaik.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know. Both have the same fundamental premise: to leak data that shouldn’t be leaked.

“WebUSB provides a way for these non-standardized USB device services to be exposed to the web. This means that hardware manufacturers will be able to provide a way for their device to be accessed from the web, without having to provide their own API.”

That’s from Mozilla. And that’s a hard pass. Why anyone wants this is beyond me. Just so long as there’s a flag to turn it off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have you worked with either before? They're completely unrelated technologies, with similar names. They have nothing to do with one another. They're not even being developed by the same groups. They emphatically do not have the same fundamental premise. I've built apps in WebRTC before, and I can guarantee it has nothing to do with WebUSB, and in fact I just confirmed in the docs that it has nothing to do with any sort of device-level hardware control.

To reiterate: the only connection between WebUSB and WebRTC is the fact that they're named "Web" + three letter initialism.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wikipedia is pretty aggressive with these bots

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have absolutely no idea what that's intended to mean.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh cool, ad hominem. The clearest and most humble concession of defeat. Very well, I accept your capitulation.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only losers claim victory in such ways

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have no need to claim it when you so freely offer it.