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submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is genuine money to be made in learning the "dead languages" of the IT world. If you're the only person within 500 Miles that knows how to maintain COBOL you can basically name your price when it comes to salary.

I just wish I had the slightest interest in programing

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I've seriously looked into picking one of these dead languages up and honestly, it's not worth it.

Biggest issue is, you have to be experienced to some degree before you get the name your price levels. So you'll have to take regular ol average programmer pay (at best) for a language that's a nightmare in 2023. Your sanity is at heavy risk.

I'd honestly rather bash my head with assembly, it's still very much in use these days in a modern way. Most programs still get compiled into it anyway (Albeit to a far more complicated instruction set than in the past) and can still land some well paid positions for not a whole lot of experience (relatively)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

Yeah everytime someone says "just learn COBOL, you'll make tons of money," it's like,

Bro.

There's a reason no one wants to write new software in these languages anymore, let alone maintain a forty-year-old pile of technical debt.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Been working in COBOL for a decade and this is all true.

I'm lucky. I personally enjoy it. But i can totally see how it's an absolute nightmare for most people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been meaning to learn Fortran in part because because of the whole "big bucks for being willing to maintain old software" thing, but mostly because I'd like to work on the sorts of scientific computing software that was (and still often is) written in Fortran.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fortran syntax is a warm summer rain tickling your face compared to c++ for high performance computing which is like slap in the face for non it peeps

[–] RobertoOberto 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you got a golden shower from Fortran.

Enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Its not peepee until you know its pee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

COBOL isn't too terrible, it has its gotchas (like sizing variables for inputs (in which you don't need space for the datas headers and will break stuff if you do)) but mostly it's an old language designed to be easy to use

New staff in my workplace first using COBOL (with other build experience) learn it to the point they're productive in a week or two

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah man I'll take plain old php and java any time of day, I can still get enough money from it to pay my lifestyle. And at 5pm I can close my laptop and play vidya with no worries.