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[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago (35 children)

You think you're going to get a better answer by asking that here rather than by reading the Wikipedia article or a media company's summary of what Hamas is?!

As neutrally as possible:

Hamas is an organization in the area of historical Palestine. It has been governing the Gaza Strip, a small piece of land between Israel, Egypt and the Mediterranean Sea, since 2007.

Ever since then, Israel has been blockading the Gaza Strip. Every few years, eg. in 2014 and 2021 and now again, Hamas fires rockets at Israel or otherwise attacks it, to which Israel responds with airstrikes.

Palestinian narrative: Israel is a settler colonial state that has taken away Palestinian land and is imprisoning Gazans in Gaza. Fighting against that is legitimate resistance against oppression. Israel's goal is ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

Israeli narrative: Israel is a safe haven for the historically oppressed Jewish people. Arabs have plenty of other countries for themselves. The aim of Hamas is to eliminate the Jewish state and maybe even the Jewish people. Israel is doing its best to avoid civilian casualties in its airstrikes against Gaza.

The actual truth: There is no such thing as the actual truth. There is a reason why this is the most difficult conflict in the world.

inb4 people with strong opinions on both sides tell me their opinion is obviously right and the above is nowhere near neutral

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

No matter what "narrative" you seek to believe, the fact is that Hamas hasn't been firing every once in awhile - They have been firing rockets and mortars regularly. Sometimes daily. You can see a list here and more info here

These attacks almost exclusively target civilians. more than 20,000 rockets in the past 20 years.

Additionally, airborne arson attacks are carried out..

edit:fixed links

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You fucked up your links by putting bangs in front of them. Don't put bangs in front of your links. That's for embedding images

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Thanks, just started using boost and I used it's link function. either I don't know what I'm doing (probably), or it's a big.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Point taken. The point was mainly that the escalations (to which Israel responds with airstrikes or invasions) happen every few years. Most of the time, people in other parts of the world don't really hear about what's going on there in the media. The times when we do are probably because such an escalation happens (e.g. now).

Your links don't work for me by the way, I can see in the source code what you meant to link to, but they don't display as links for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Thanks, fixed the links.

What most people don't realize is how much this situation is constant. these escalations are only peaks in an ongoing conflict.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Imagine if Germany launched V2 rockets at Britain for so long the British had built automated defenses to shoot them down.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Largely ineffective rocket attacks. See these charts for what near daily rocket attacks and near daily snipers, police beatings, etc, do for relative casualties between Israeli and Palestinian peoples.

https://israelpalestinetimeline.org/charts/

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