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"Do Not Track" is a legally binding order, German Court tells LinkedIn::Landgericht Berlin gibt Klage des vzbv gegen die LinkedIn Ireland Unlimited Company weitgehend statt

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 9 months ago (5 children)

GDPR was designed around the "Do not Track" browser flag, so that websites can get a semblance of consent using those annoying cookie prompts, with dark patterns like hiding the "Decline All cookies" inside the second page of the prompt, or using very small fonts and gray colors + very confusing language. and they have carried on with complete impunity for 5 years now.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Luckily in Germany the law states that at least the "Decline all cookies" button has to be in the same place as the "Accept all cookies" one. So at least the local sites are kind of easy to navigate.

Only problem at the moment are "Accept all cookies or buy a subscription" banners. But as far as I know the courts are inclined to side with the customers on this one as well.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I mean, most companies still don’t abide by it tho. There’s lots of sites where you can accept all cookies or you have to jump through a few hoops to decline the non essential ones.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Am I supposed to trust the company to correctly define 'essential?' Seems easy to weasel around and makes me nervous.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

It's almost certainly going to be litigated at some point, so a court is going to define "essential"... eventually.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Also a good point, I agree

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I install the extension consent-o-matic and let it jump through the hoops for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I just open any site with one of those cookie-banners in a private window so that any cookie it creates will be deleted as soon as the window is closed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Another ridiculous half measure that I need to actively engage with a website to avoid being harvested.

They should have made websites not track be default. If I want to be tracked, then I can go and hunt down a link for the pleasure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Do not track is the default position. However websites really want to track you. They choose to gate their website behind that popup.

Remember you can follow gdpr without these popups on your website.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Totally. If we’re going make real change with this we need hard enforcement that says “you must provide a default setting that can be set per browser” or something that avoids the entire need for sifting through their cookie menu to find out I left one turned on. But this is peak example of ineffective laws to govern the internet made by people who don’t have any experience in computer science. I’m sure we will continue to see “do not track is just a suggestion” messages continuously. Or the requirement for each individual website to specify what type of tracking in absurd detail.

[–] InfiniteWisdom -4 points 9 months ago

More restrictions that will stomp out small tech businesses and make billionares richer. Thanks libs 😥✨

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

A while ago I ran into a site that had a toggle for your selection of being tracked or not, but there was no text indicating which side of the toggle meant yes/no and it stayed green no matter which way you toggled it. Can’t imagine it would hold up in court but I’m not the one with the money to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My personal favorite is the one that defaults to "off", but when you go to the detailed page it puts "legitimate interest" on every single goddamn option with no "disallow all" option.