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TLDR; Marvel is moving away from limited series and moving to more multiple-season shows.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Makes sense. WandaVision made sense as a mini-series.

Falcon and Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, and Ms. Marvel all felt like movies chopped into TV length segments.

She Hulk could have been good TV but if felt like they weren't in it with their whole heart. They stopped writing the plot part way through and then just kinda faked it until the end of the show.

Loki is a great TV show but it's the ONLY one really paced for the TV audience and also the only one with enough plot that it could easily go 12-20 episodes a season if modern streaming budgets would allow for such excess.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Oh and Moon Knight suffered the same fate as She Hulk. They had slightly less than one movie's worth of plot and put it in 6 episodes TV and hoped it worked. Maybe in old network TV it would have been fine but in the streaming age it was poorly paced.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with both FatWS and She-Hulk. FatWS really felt like it focused on a different side character or tackled something big each episode and wouldn't have worked as a movie format.

She-Hulk just made the plot secondary. That's pretty common for episodic shows. Probably the most well know to do it like that is Doctor Who, where the main plot is hinted at but rarely the focus.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

FatWS felt so unfocused to me. For example they make a HUGE deal out of Bucky's therapist and him being required to go to therapy regularly in eps 1 and 2 and getting arrested in Louisiana for being a no-show for his therapy appointment.

Then the rest of the show is jet-setting around the world without any consequences or need to get back to the US for any reason. Bucky sends the therapist a gift bag and note at the end but otherwise we never see her or her office again. Are there consequences for him leaving the county? Did her need her permission? Did he violate his court order? Who knows because they never mentioned it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It's been a minute since I watched it. But didn't Sam vouch for him and get permission? I thought that ended up being a huge part of his therapy for Bucky to let literally anybody in, so they let him go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but making up stupid endings in on brand for she hulk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I thought the end was strong and on-brand but the wedding ep and the one where she goes to the retreat center were both kinda mediocre and disconnected. Fine when you have 15-20 episodes in the season you can get away with those "beach episodes" that only push the plot a little but in this format they felt like wasted time.