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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes but it doesn't mean it's excusable or justifiable to murder innocent people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Damn another strawman! He didn't say "ehh let's forgive him, he had it rough". It's just an explanation for why it probably happened.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

They claim it's 100% societies fault. So even while trying to defend they remove all agency from this guy. Yes, let's work to improve systems to give everyone a better shake, but don't discard his own horrible actions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Post itself sugests it's society fault not his as if making him innocent. If someone is strawman it is you for picking things out of context.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He is morally innocent though which is the point, even if he's criminally guilty. The strawman is hearing "we can't be surprised and we can still feel bad for him" and equating that to saying "he should be let go!". He can still be guilty for his actions even though it's almost entirely society's fault.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He is morally innocent

No he's not, because once again the vast majority of people who have bad childhoods and mental challenges don;t go murdering people. He is in no way morally innocent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The fact that anybody thinks otherwise is really suspicious. Some dudes in suits are going to start monitoring this thread.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is justifying anything. If we want to stop these things from happening we need to actually understand why they happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Post itself suggests its somehow excusable I disagree.
To me makes sense to stea money but to kill other just for sake of killing them is closer to serial killer thinking than desperation .