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[–] [email protected] 230 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I get that Linus is a superhero, but it's still so weird to me that this vital piece of the world's infrastructure relies on one man.

[–] [email protected] 175 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think its better to think of it like a president or prime minister. He might set the plan and direction and making the big decisions, but there are thousands of others supporting and making the plan actually happen.

In the past he has delegated the release to others as well.

So if the worst would happen, the linux project would continue operating fairly seamlessly.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is benevolent dictator still the official title?

[–] pastermil 71 points 9 months ago

Technically yes.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 9 months ago

That's pretty much all of open source to be fair. It's a real problem.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's also mind blowing to consider that as many other projects, both Linux and Python started as a hobyist project never meant to do more than cater to some personal needs.

This taught me how important is allocating time for your team for their personal projects, as the next school romance anime tagging system could be the cornerstone of every AI in the future.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Relevant xkcd https://xkcd.com/2347/

It is a small bunch of people though.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's because it doesn't : ) He is the top level engineer/manager for releases and technical consultation but there are many more engineers "under" him leading and moving the pieces into place.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

OSS is heavily undermaintained, always has been. But the world hasn't exploded from it yet (somehow).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you think OSS is undermaintained, you really ought to look at the way 90% of commercial software is developed.

It’s at least equally bad if not worse, with the added bonus that no one else can step in even if they really wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Wouldn't surprise me to see unmaintained software anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The kernel will figure something out. There are already lots of companies investing their own development resources into it. Would just need a new leader to emerge. Perhaps it'd be a rotating group of people who are responsible for managing a single release.

Tons of smaller but important projects don't have this luxury, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The kernel is totally safe. I don't see anything happening to it. Even if something were to happen to Linus (oh hell no, please live forever).

But that's not true for the projects that don't do headlines, everyone uses, and nobody knows. When you install software and it has like 200 MB dependencies, half of those are probably unmaintained.

Also, the term maintained is not clear. Is a project with.a single contributor and some commits this year maintained? How about tons of contributors in the past but only a release 2 years ago? And you have to differenciate the usages too, curl is dead if it does not get updated, some config parser, ls, or cat is maybe as stable as they can be.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Linux is developed by a ton of people. As soon as Linus is out of the picture (say, because he retires), someone else will take his place.

Apple didn't disappear just because Steve Jobs was gone.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not really, the bus factor (or in Linus' case, shark factor) is greater than 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL7BqWDCd8Q

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