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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uncached server side rendered response times in double digit milliseconds.

Thirst thought, that sounds slow. But for the use case of delivering html over the Internet it is fast enough.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Get this man some water.

[–] naught 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Double digit milliseconds sounds slow to you?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For a bit of templating? Yes! What drives response times up is typically the database or some RPC, both of which are out of control of PHP, so I assume these were not factored in (because PHP can't win anything there in a comparison).

[–] naught 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anything under like 100ms load is instant to the user, especially a page load. It's a balancing act of developer experience vs performance. To split hairs over milliseconds seems inconsequential to me. I mean, PHP requires $ before variables! That's the real controversy :p

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Anything under like 100ms load is instant to the user, especially a page load.

True, but it accumulates. Every ms I save on templating I can "waste" on I/O, DB, upstream service calls, etc.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it’s stateless and nothing is kept in memory, can you have a connection pool?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If you run it in old-school CGI mode, no, because each request would spawn a new process. But that's nowhere near state-of-the-art. So typically you would still have a long-running process somewhere that could manage a connection pool. No idea if it does, though. Can't imagine that it wouldn't, however, since PHP would be slaughtered in benchmarks if there was no way to keep connections (or pools) open across requests.