this post was submitted on 28 Oct 2023
1 points (100.0% liked)

Football / Soccer / Calcio / Futebol / Fußball

142 readers
2 users here now

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I’m trying to be completely objective if the fanboys can please try to do the same. In 2020 and 2021 lewandowski was the best player in the world winning the sextuple one year and then breaking a 40 year old bundesliga scoring record. I get the award was cancelled in 2020 but for 21 the narrative was messi finally got his international trophy so he has to win balon d’or. But Argentina literally have the most copa Americas in history they won it 14 times before messi, he had 4 tries in 6 years to win it. 15, 16, 19, and 21. So was it really that impressive that he won a tournament that him not winning up to that point was literally a failure because of how good Argentina were historically? Im not trying to argue about who the best player ever is or what he’s done in the past. Can someone just objectively tell me that it was impressive and not just journalists being emotional and voting for their favorite player and the narrative instead of the actual best player?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It wasn’t impressive & that was the general feeling at the time. On top of that, as much as I love Messi, it was Di Maria who single handedly won Argentina Copa America, not Messi. Messi was quite poor. Same thing happened in the WC final. Di Maria on the pitch & Argentina are dominating 2-0. He comes off & Argentina are losing 3-1. It shows just how important Di Maria is to Argentina & why many Argentina fans who aren’t fanboys consider him a bigger legend to Argentinian football than Messi has been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So many things wrong with this post that I don't know ehere to begin..

Di Maria single handely won the CA? Messi legit contributed to 75% of goals and had the most goals,assets and MOTM but Di Maria single handely won it because he scored one goal? That's the equivalent of saying that Gotze carried Germajy fo the title in 2014 because he scored

Same thing in the World Cup final? Correct me but Messi wss also brilliant and pretty much every other player, reducing all that to Di Maria is disrespectful to everyone that even Di Maria would've ashamed of hearing.

And your final argument is just horrible, everyone in Argentina idolizes Messi more than Di Maria. Only person who they light idiolize more is Marsdona.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man said that when di Maria came off, they conceded 3 as if di Maria was playing centre back. Loool

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They only scored one. I guess Di Maria was playing CF right by your logic? Cause I didn’t mention him playing CB at all.

I do worry about the comprehension levels of people these days. And you’re Sikh, meant to be one of the smartest group of people in the world yet you struggle to read & comprehend. It’s a shame.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you’re the only Messi fan that I have seen think logically on what has happened in finals. DI Maria is the only reason those two finals were won he’s the only one that shows up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Did you watch either final???

Aside from the the fact Messi was brilliant in the WC one, did you not see how Dibu stopped several great chances by Brazil? Di Maria was not the only player who showed up, he was really good and one of our best players in both finals but not the best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who in their right mind considers di Maria a bigger Argentina legend than messi, are you OK?😭

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

He says he loves Messi lol. That's like me saying I love Ronaldo but he is actually not good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most Argentinians beleive it or not. They’re not saying Di Maria is the worse player. They’re saying for Argentina football team, Di Maria has done more for Argentina than Messi. Di Maria is why Argentina won the Copa & WC. They value players who win them trophies extremely highly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/PzVZ0SnumFk?si=_o1ZJeH9w0Wra9ra

You are such a liar lol, the majority of these guys have Messi's shirts. Why would they do this if Messi did. Nothing?

Also, the disrespect to Dibu Martinez is absolutely insane lol. He was just as impotent if not that Di Maria in the WC..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the vid! And Messi shirts mean he scored the goal that won Argentina the Copa? Or that he played the best on the field for Argentina in the WC final? Of course people have Messi shirts over Di Maria. Messi is a national icon. English fans have Kane shirts yet he has won zero for England. Brazil fans have Neymar shirts yet he has won zero for Brazil. They are icons. Like Messi. Yet there are players for both teams who did more for the team.

If you wish to prove me wrong, go to Argentina. Interview Argentinians like I & my peers in the media have. We all came to the same conclusion. Yes Messi is more popular. But they see the real reason Argentina won Copa & WC was Di Maria.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Scoring the winning goal doesn't mean you won the title for them. You don't see Germans saying Gotze was their best player because he scored the winning goal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In WC tho, Di Maria was amazing but you're really discrediting Messi. Secondly that's not a perfect correlation when you say Di Maria, a winger got off and they scored goal, that's more of a defense thingy.

Yes di Maria was like the bestest player while he was on pitch tho.

Messi did amazing things later too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d love to carry on this convo but that other guy who was replying to every post of mine & now claimed he’s blocked me is a freak. He’s now sending me personal messages threatening me & has somehow found out my name, guessing he has doxed me but can’t be sure

I wish you good fortune. Shame it had to end this way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

oh holy shit dude. Sorry i hate how fanboying goes so hard, people get so personal over players who never give a shit about them lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Di Maria played only 1 match in copa and he subbed off before the match ended. What a shameless assh*le