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Baldur's Gate 3
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Baldur’s Gate 3 is a story-rich, party-based RPG set in the universe of Dungeons & Dragons, where your choices shape a tale of fellowship and betrayal, survival and sacrifice, and the lure of absolute power. (Website)
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It's worth noting that this guy is talking not of old Bethesda but modern Bethesda. The writing team behind Morrowind and half of Oblivion absolutely cared about the details that only 1% of people might see. Morrowind especially is a world built around you exploring the world building. It's not about levelling up (wowee I can miss the flying fuckheads 2% less now), it was about exploring the politics and cultures in the world.
At some point, Bethesda games became about the mechanical exploration, about going over there because that looks like it might be interesting, oh it's just a cave with combat in it oh well maybe over there will be interesting.
Skyrim was a blight on the games industry.
Howso?
So many games wanted to be the next Skyrim, and so they brought over a lot of its systems and design choices. Including the bad ones.
The flood of games going open world, reliance on mods, and marketing through memes.
I can't think of many games that do that. I can't really think of anyone that tries to be like Bethesda games in the bad ways.
I don't think Skyrim was a bad game, but I think it set a bad precedence for Bethesda. Oblivion wasn't terribly good, but with the success of Skyrim it showed they could simply reskin an older game and be profitable. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Fallout: New Vegas, and Starfield are all the same game reskinned.
To say Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Starfield don't have a place in Video Gaming is pretty absurd. I don't love any of them, but they aren't harmful and predatory like some other titles.
I think you're the only one who said anything about not having a place in gaming. I can't find anyone else mentioning it, so you're either just arguing against your own comment or stating a non-point.
Also, Elder Scrolls was one of the first games to introduce predatory microtransactions with the Horse Armor DLC in 2006. They have even been credited with being the grandfather of the concept. I would argue that seems pretty harmful.
Sure bud.
People enjoy shitting on things and loudly, hyperbolicly saying that they are objectively bad and the worst thing ever. Especially Skyrim.
It's ok to not like the game or even hate it. Doesn't make it objectively bad or somehow the downfall of video games.
I was very disappointed with the lack of cities. I wish i had oblivion in skyrim.
Eh, let op make the point before jumping on it like this.