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Challenge others opinions and be challenged on your own.

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Calls for defederation - Is the idea of the open marketplace of ideas outdated? (self.controversial)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Hastur to c/controversial

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Lately I see a lot of calls do have specific instances defederated for a particular subset of reasons:

Don't like their content
Dont like their political leaning
Dont like their free speech approach
General feeling of being offended
I want a safe space!
This instance if hurting vulnerable people

I personally find each and every one of these arguments invalid. Everybody has the right to live in an echo chamber, but mandating it for everyone else is something that goes a bit too far.

Has humanity really developed into a situation where words and thoughts are more hurtful than sticks and stones?

Edit: Original context https://slrpnk.net/post/554148

Controversial topic, feel free to discuss!

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[+] Hastur -9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you call for an authority to get the bad offense banned from your view it's a clear call for an authority to fix your life, because you're not able to. This has nothing to do with an admin (team) having transparent rules about what they do or don't allow on an instance.

On a different topic: Civil discussion and disagreement is encouraged, you're trying to insult and disparage which is something I as moderator will not allow here. So either you follow the rules or I'll have to start moderating your contributions here.

[–] FlagonOfMe 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ban me, hypocrite

[–] WheeGeetheCat 4 points 1 year ago

Do we have a lemmy drama space yet to discuss hilarious goings-on like the 'pro-free-speech' controversial topics mod banning the first person to pushback against their name-calling in the very first thread on their new community?

[–] Hastur -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Done.

[+] Hastur -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Transparency report: User banned for 14 days to cool down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Banning your own discussion partners on a community IN YOUR OWN THREAD for controversial opinions doesn't exactly inspire to contribute.

[–] Guncle 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're banning someone from a community called "Controversial" where the rules state, "This is not a safe place" and "Challenge others opinions and be challenged on your own" because you disagree with them. In a post where you claim that defederating is censorship.

I don't know if you're trolling with this post or not but that is way too funny!

[–] Hastur -1 points 1 year ago

A 14 days cooldown is not a permanent ban.
Civil discussion is the base of this community, not ad hominems or intents to derail die discussion.
Moderation is a necessary evil in order to have some basic rules that facilitate free speech. I'm not advocating for pure anarchy.

Look up the modlog to check if what I said is true.