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After years of reddit/twitter/facebook propping up fascism/bigotry with algorithms & bots I'm honestly surprised and relieved to be in an online space that clearly rejects their ideology.

They can have reddit/facebook/twitter. AFAIC the only way to reach some of these people is to leave them alone long enough to realize on their own.

Lemmy.world admins are doing an amazing job dealing with everything. Their recent decision to defederate from exploding heads (or whatever its called) really goes to show that they're in it for the right reasons. > https://lemmy.world/post/694810?scrollToComments=true

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s something I noticed when I joined Mastodon as well. When people are in control for the sake of community and not profit, things tend to be better in this regard. Let crazies federate with crazies.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

NGL I derive some joy seeing maga/conservative/fascist communities getting all their misinformation downvoted to hell while the only positively voted posts are about the crimes & failures of trump and republicans in general.

I don't want them banned. This is much better.

[–] Ashyr 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't learn though. While you may derive pleasure from their ignorance, there are some who may get sucked into their worldview who may not otherwise be. Free speech doesn't require a community to put up with their nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't derive pleasure from their ignorance. From that I derive migraines. It's specifically their failure to gain traction here on lemmy that I must admit to a degree of schadenfreude.

But for real, I've lost dear friends to this movement. At this point I've simply recognized that the only way to save those people is to be patient and keep an open door in case they do realize they're being duped. It's that or drive them further into the cult.

Thankfully lemmy is not putting up with their nonsense. I don't actually care if they get banned or not. I can only hope that seeing that their rhetoric only trends in spaces known to be bot-ridden and algo-driven will cause the most rational of them to wake up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does free speech have to do with it? Free speech right guarantees that you won't be prosecuted by the government for your words. It doesn't apply to private communications.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That is true but social media people have collectively made up "freedom of speech rights" on social media without understanding how the technology or the law works at all.

Terms of Service are all we have online, unless the government is hosting the platform.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free speech as a law, maybe, but many people like myself view it as an ideal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not an ideal, that's lunacy.