53
Hold on now, I may be anxious and a political cupcake, but, uhh... What was that other thing you said?
(poptalk.scrubbles.tech)
this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
53 points (84.4% liked)
Taylor Swift
530 readers
18 users here now
General Taylor Swift discussion. Welcome all Swifties!
Bring your clown hats, your wild theories, and your hype, this community is for you.
Some basic guidelines:
- Posts should be about Taylor Swift
- "Shoehorned" articles about Taylor are considered not relevant.
- Criticism of Taylor is fine, but open trolling or low effort posts like "Her music sux" will be removed.
- Downvote trolling is actively monitored. Downvotes are enabled and welcome, but if all that you do is downvote, it will result in bans. Join the discourse, if you don't like this community feel free to block it. Admins have the ability to see votes by user, and we use that ability here.
- General "Don't be a dick" rules apply, no trolling, no being a jerk
- No NSFW. This is a fun Swiftie community. NSFW is banned here.
- Use the "spoiler" tag generously when it comes to Tour spoilers. Pictures and outfits are fine, but streams/setlists should be marked. (Remember while the US tour is winding down, our global Swifties are just ramping up)
- Add [Spoiler] to your title
- Use the spoiler text for any spoilers in comments/description (the triangle with the exclamation point)
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
But “this artist writes most of their own music”…is literally the least we can expect from an artist.
I guess that’s just your point though. She does just make regular ass pop music, which is engineered to be an ear worm. Coupled with the fact that she’s this larger-than-life star and looks flawless and has every single person pumping this image, we wouldn’t expect her to put any effort in because she has this all at her feet. But because she is already on that plane of stardom AND expresses actual stuff in her music, the celebrity machine basically made it otherworldly that she can be this famous while actually revealing things about herself.
Is that what you’re saying? That’s how I took it. Because you said she’s just standard pop music. But the fact that she is such a star and is as large of a public figure as she is, being at all personal in her music was like a key when you reach that level to pure obsession. Because we have this weird celebrity culture, and when they get that high, we expect just a face and an image, but she’s the first one to use the key to be personal and share things that turn that megastar celebrity status into the obsession we see, because she “lets people in” by writing things that actually have to do with her as a person.
Are we saying the same thing?
Hardly any pop stars write their own songs. Frank Sinatra wrote exactly one song, and if anybody knows it, it's because they know it as the one song he wrote. It would be far easier to list the pop stars who did write their own music, because it's like the Beatles, Prince, and Lady Gaga. Taylor Swift, for what it's worth, writes lyrics and collaborates on the tune, so I wouldn't even put her in that list with the others I mentioned. I'm sure there are a few big ones I'm missing.
You asked why she's so big right now. She's big because people enjoy her music and feel a personal connection with her. It's not that complicated. You understand "pop" is short for "popular" right? The music is catchy, and she is likeable for all the aformentioned reasons.
As for celebrity culture and the unhealthy obsession with fame, that's not new. Swift is just currently at the top of the pyramid.
If that's what you're saying, then yes, we're saying the same thing.