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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try searching for "electric stove" and you'll see that 95% figure swap the other direction. I'm in the US and probably 95% of the stoves I've seen have the controls in the back like this one.

I'm guessing gas ranges are more common in the EU and more commonly have front controls but they aren't as common in the US. Our house has natural gas but only for the fireplace and furnace. The stove is electric. Of all the people I know, I think only one has a gas stove in their home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've only had electric stoves everywhere I've lived for the past 20 years of my adult life across various EU countries, along with every friend, family or airbnb I've stayed at. I didn't even know the controls could be positioned back there! It seems wild to me that could ever be the norm.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The EU has very poor safety controls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you have anything to back that up, or just the conversation above that indicates the contrary?

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Burner controls on the front. No regulation on toxic chemicals in consumer products. Highest levels of cancer because of toxic chemicals in consumer products than any other region.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  1. I don't understand why you think the controls on the front are a hazard rather than the ones directly behind the hotplates/burners.

  2. You must be talking about the PFAS stuff getting legislated on currently. Despite the disappointing u-turn on a blanket ban, they still plan on banning some of the worst offenders. As far as I can tell no other country in the world has banned any at all. The US has phased out manufacturing of some chemicals but still imports and sells products containing those same chemicals.

  3. State your source for the "highest levels of cancer because of toxic chemicals in consumer products". Research is only just really beginning on the impact of PFAS, so it would be interesting if you had worldwide data directly connected to their cancer causing impact in humans from consumer products specifically.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The EU makes up only 5% of the world's population but has 23% of all cancer cases.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Sure, that's a stat, but it's 23% of all new cancer cases.

What makes you think that's solely down to toxins in consumer products? There's lifestyle aspects, pollution and population density to add in there.

Also two thoughts: I have a gut feeling that the reporting of cancer cases is likely to be higher when health care is free. Additionally, the stat is for Europe and not the EU. EU countries are likely to have more safety regulations than non-EU countries.