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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Could it not have been a start? Now it looks like you’ve all said no to the bare minimum, so there’s no point in continuing with anything at all. And have you seen the reaction from the indigenous community? That doesn’t seem like they felt it was useless. They’ve just been ignored again.

I’m on the outside looking in, btw. From Ireland it looks like you’ve all been played by the No campaign.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, that couldn’t have been the start because it likely would have been the end too. What was proposed wasn’t the bare minimum, it was a complete embarrassment. It was a giant “trust us guys, we’re the government and we’ll definitely do the right thing”.

No one got played. Maybe, just maybe, the majority of people saw this ridiculous waste of time and money as just that. A virtue signalling waste of time and money so the rich inner city lefties can feel good about themselves for ending racism by doing the absolutely smallest thing possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and if it went all the way, guaranteed senate seats, minimum employee numbers in all companies and universities, that would be going too far, wouldn’t it.

Fucks sake. It might have had the chance to be the start of something, but you’ve all definitely made sure it’s the end of it now, haven’t ye.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It wasn’t going to be the start of anything other than another waste of time. How many indigenous advisory boards have the government already had?

This was the equivalent of putting a black square as your social media profile picture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Indigenous advisory boards that were legislated for, and were killed by legislation. That’s why it was a referendum this time, so the next politician can’t just kill it.

Oh, and this seems appropriate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yet they wouldn't legislate any real power for it, nor even the size or makeup of the advisory board. Note the proposal didn't even say that the advisory board had to be made up of or even include an indigenous person.

No one is asking for the "perfect" solution, just not a shitty virtue signalling one that will change nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well you’ve all made sure nothing will change for 20 years, because no politician is going to want to touch it because “the people said no the last time”, so well done there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Said no to enshrining an advisory group in the constitution, nothing more. There’s nothing even stopping them from making the voice via legislation.

What’s with the new narrative of “it was the voice or nothing for decades! You’ve killed us all!” coming from the virtue signallers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

…which the next shower will legislate out of existence again.

Look, maybe they’ll go the Irish route like with the Treaty of Nice, where there was a referendum that was ill defined, it was voted down, so in true Mrs Doyle style they made small amendments and said “you will, you will, you will” and it got through.

I certainly hope so, because regardless of why you voted against it, it’s not a good look internationally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The same exact thing would essentially happen with a constitutionally protected voice though, that’s the thing. Under the LNP they’d just strip it right back till the point where it may as well have been legislated out of existence. The referendum protected a name only basically.

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