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I'm starting to get ads in my Windows notifications so it's time I move.

I got ~~Manjaro KDE~~ Endeavor OS with KDE installed and got my most played non-steam games running through steam proton which is awesome.

But I have a few big issues.

  1. My network randomly drops. A restart fixes but I can't even download Cyberpunk with my 1GB connection before it crashes. Klogs showed something about the network manager successfully shutting down but I can't find much else.

  2. No Radeon software. I sometimes need to record clips/ stream so relive is nice but the biggest problem is my second 1080p monitor I Super Resolution to fit more programs on it. I can't find a way to replicate that functionality. I also do not know how to control Radeon anti-lag, chill, Smart Memory Access, etc.

  3. HDR controls. Nothing in the display settings so I'm lost

  4. Alternative Software I haven't spent a lot of time looking but things like wallpaper engine, rainmeter, powertoys.

If anyone ran into the same things and has solutions it'd make my day.

EDIT: With the overwhelming note from everyone here I distro-hopped to Endeavor OS with KDE (I liked that it let me install multiple DE's) biggest loss is the App store but I was already using winget/choco on Windows so having to do pacman -S is pretty much the same. EDIT: Added KDEs Discover and its backend, seems to be alright.

installing plasma-wayland-session and switching to Wayland let me set display scale below 100% removing the biggest need for Radeon Software.

Network thing I'm still digging into but it persisted from the distro hop and I think is Steam-related because if I don't launch steam it just doesn't happen

EDIT2:

netmon logs - https://pastebin.com/wKZrV04Y demsg - https://pastebin.com/3rAPcAve

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Manjaro should literally never be used, it's a terrible, terrible distro that just makes arch worse and provides little to no benefit.

If you don't want to use a TUI or touch a terminal, try endeavoros.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you don't want to use a TUI or touch a terminal, try endeavoros.

Why are you recommending a terminal centric distro for someone who doesn't want to touch the terminal. Endeavour does not even ship with discover+packagekit so he has to most things with the terminal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Updating/installing software is not most things, and you can just install octopi or buah for that, although you're right it should ship with something graphical for that, but not packagekit, which inevitably breaks things.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went from arch to manjaro because time is money/my life and I didn't have time to fuck around last install. I'll echo that manjaro has been great. I game on it, I edit video in DaVinci resolve on it, I browse on it. It's awesome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I used to install Manjaro on other people's computers, it breaks FAR more often than arch. It's not even close. You'll waste far more time fixing things on Manjaro than arch, and all the things that work well are because of arch.

Use endeavoros for that use case.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Manjaro is fine for people that don't want to deal with CLI-ness of Arch. I have it installed on my parents computer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No it is not, the simple fact that it updates the kernel with different version numbers means eventually you'll have to manually intervene to update the kernel, this has happened MANY times to the elderly people I used to give it. And that's just one of many things that manjaro has fucked up.

Just use endeavoros for that usecase. There is never a good reason to use manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't had an issue like that in the three years they've been using it. They don't do the updates, I do when I see them every month or two.

I've had way more issues with Arch and ZFS (even when using the DKMS package) than I ever had with Manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that they're incapable of doing the kernel updates without you walking them through it proves the complexity and absurdity of manjaros system, the kernel should update along with everything else, as it does on arch, especially when certain packages depend on certain versions of the kernel, this is an especially big problem with nvidia GPU's.

the arch zfs setup is identical to the manjaro one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not that they can't, it's that they don't care to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

having had to update the kernel for elderly people, I understand why they wouldn't, it's sometimes a cycle where i'd have to remove it with pacman -Rdd, things normal people would never think of, all because they let the updates run but don't manually switch out the kernel and years of that messes things up.

And for what benefit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just updating the kernel they don't care about, it's all updates. My dad is still stuck in the Windows mindset of "updates break things".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would feel similarly if I not only did have updates break things, because of manjaros fuckups, but also because I have to jump through hoops to update the kernel.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It breaks if you install AUR packages because they keep their main repository behind Arch. It’s an awful distribution. They add a nice looking custom desktop but otherwise add no value. They are a bunch of amateur clowns too. There’s no good reason to use it over Endeavour if one is looking for an easier Arch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've never had any issues with it in the three years it's been installed on their PC. I'll check out Endeavor though.