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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hello World,

Today, after careful consideration and evaluation of recent events, we have decided to defederate from Lemmygrad.

Regrettably, we have observed a significant increase in hate speech and calls to violence originating from the Lemmygrad instance. Due to the severity of the posts and comments, we are not waiting for the next Lemmy update that will allow users to block instances.

At Lemmy.world, we have always strived to foster an inclusive and welcoming user environment. However, recent posts and comments from Lemmygrad have clearly violated our server rules and, more importantly, our core values. We firmly believe that hate speech and incitement of violence have no place in our community, regardless of personal beliefs or affiliations.

As always, we encourage all users to report any content they deem inappropriate or harmful. No matter one's stance in any conflict, Lemmy.world will always take immediate action to remove and ban any posts or comments that incite violence or propagate hatred.

We encourage everyone to continue engaging in discussions within the boundaries of respect and understanding. As we move forward with this decision, we remain committed to providing all community members with a safe and welcoming space. We appreciate your continued support and cooperation in upholding our shared principles.

Thank you,

The Lemmy.World Team

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 11 months ago (74 children)

I understand that they are staunchly pro-communist and also take a pro-Palestine, including some of them (many of them?) a more clearly pro-Hamas stance. And that all of this could annoy many of the centrist liberals that seem to dominate here. But from perusing the lemmygrad link I do not see clear signs of hate speech, certainly not a clear hate speech agenda as you would see with some hate groups. And judging by the comments on here many seem to be happy to be “rid of them” because they are “annoying”, or “immature”, or “tankies”, or whatever. It really reads largely like “their opinions annoy me” so I’m glad they’re gone.

There may be more to it, I don’t know, but personally I wouldn’t like lemmy.world, an otherwise fine instance by all means, to become a centrist liberal silo where no other opinion outside (mostly US-centric) liberal orthodoxy is heard. So yeah, not convinced that this was the right decision, basically because of a lack of evidence.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

Yes… agree with this take. I’m disappointed in the Lemmy World Admins for this move..

If Lemmy World is going to just defederate from instances where the opinions of users of one instance annoy the admins, then I will withdraw my monthly donation and go elsewhere.

Also, seems like there should be more of a process involved in defederation than a knee jerk post where the admins assure us it was a decision made with lots of deliberation. Despite that, it all feels very abrupt and top down and driven more by the admins’ personal geo-political opinions about recent events than other factors.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Already canceled my patreon subscription, haven't had the time to figure out a new server yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lemm.ee think before defed. Lemmy.ml is run by the lemmy devs who are communists and don't have the sane desire to silence any non-American view.

I used to be on world, but it's become quite politicised and intolerant of any view other than their admins.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Can we transfer our account like on Mastodon, or just create a new one? (I don’t currently plan to, just wondering.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

There are tools to copy your subscriptions and blocks from one account to another, but you can't "transfer" an account.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just gotta create a new one unfortunately. It's a highly requested feature but real low on the devs priority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

SSO is a big thing to add so it may be a while.

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