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Hopefully this will include groceries. I hate when I go to buy something and it says $9.99 and I get up to the register and they hit me with this stupid, obnoxious hidden fee!
I only have a $10 bill, it says it costs less then $10. Why is it not false advertising to have it say $9.99 when it costs $12.37 at the register?
The whole thing is a scam.
I heard someone say they don't like coming to America because it feels like everything is trying to scam you at once and honestly yeah
at least in the US pricing is somewhat consistent. Sticker price + local tax, which isn’t going to change shop to shop, just state to state or within city limits. If you go to China or the Middle East the “sticker price” is bogus and you’re expected to haggle with the merchant in many places.
True, haggle culture and the lack of it both have their pros and cons. Can't really tell Walmart about an unexpected expense that came up and have them feel sympathy to lower the price lol. But also haggling for everything must be tiring. It's also tiring feeling like I have no power over prices though, so yeah, pros and cons.
As someone with social anxiety, haggling for a better price is my worst social nightmare. It would only benefit those with a large mouth even though the sales employee is objected with selling the highest price. Better go for competitive pricing that atleast is fair for both parties.
That would be different. That would be an advertised price with their membership card that has built in coupons. With sales tax on top. Those aren't technically hidden fees, and wouldn't be effected by this.
Doubtful. Sales tax code is far more complex.
Meh, we computers that can do the math, and the labels are all printed. There is no reason why the labels can't be sales tax included these days. I understand it is harder when running commercials or billboards, but in store there is no excuse.
Online you’d need to input your address before ever seeing pricing which I personally don’t care for. In-store would be easier from that perspective but there are so many exemptions and jurisdictions it would take a ton of work to switch over. Some tax code would have to be rewritten. Possible, but far more work than what the FTC is currently talking about.
An example of one of these complexities. In 13 states, sales tax is collected on a Milkyway but not a Twix.
The webside can just list prices with the highest tax rate in their database, absent a location. No one will ever complain about a price decrease when they go to check out.
Until you’re trying to use a $10 off $50 coupon. This is constantly a problem at groceries stores. Multiple coupons, instant savings, and bonus points. You need a damn spreadsheet to make sure you meet each criteria.
The register can figure that out, why can't the label maker?
It’s not an issue of can or can’t, it’s an issue of the consumer not knowing why a Milky Way is $1.07 vs a Twix at $1.00. On the receipt they can see one is taxed and the other is not.
Does that matter to the consumer? Shouldn't they know that a Milky Way cost 7 cents more than a Twix when picking their candy?
Shouldn’t they know why? Does it just cost more or is it because the government is doing it?
No one’s saying you don’t show the tax on the receipt. It’s not like no one has figured it out yet.
The EU requires tax to be included in prices displayed to customers, and each country has their own specific country regional and local tax codes. They manage just fine, so can the US.
The VAT rate doesn’t change inside each country does it? The US doesn’t have VAT, and the federal government doesn’t have sales or use tax.
Yes VAT does change from country to country. Also VAT is more complex than sales tax in that it is applied to various consumer goods as well as some services.
inside each country. For example is there a different VAT in Paris than Cannes?
That doesn’t actually matter. You are making excuses for why the tax system is too complicated to include tax, and I’m telling you they’ve already solved the issues of different tax rates across one currency. In the EU, where most counties share the same currency, companies are required to include tax in the displayed price and show the customer how much of the purchase is tax.
I work with Point of Sale companies and know this problem is solved. It is not too difficult to achieve from a technical or practical perspective, so you’ll have to dig up some other reason this is somehow unachievable.
I’m not making excuses, I’m explaining how it’s complex and isn’t something you can’t snap your fingers and resolve. If you want to start a movement to change it, I’m not going to stand in your way. It doesn’t matter to me either way.
Because it was designed that way. In other countries its far more simple to implement.
Right, but you’re talking about potentially changing how 13,000 Jurisdictions structure their taxes. Not an easy under taking.