Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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It threatens my options. I don't believe it's healthy to rule out 95% of the world's food options, and that's the only reason I keep eating meat. If I knew there was great veg food everywhere, it would be easily done and I'd prefer to at least make meat a 3 times a year thing or less.
Edit: I'm really fucking curious. Can someone tell me what there is to downvote here? Are you truly threatened by the idea of not eating meat or what could it possibly be?
meat isn't "95% of the world's food options"
there is great veg food all over the place, failure to find is a failure to look
you're framing the choice as to whether to eat meat as some externally imposed thing when it's simply not. Choosing from among your options doesn't 'threaten' the options you didn't choose
your tone is just generally gross and defensive
I'm an omnivore too, but your arguments sound less like you considered the possibilities, rationally thought your way through to the best option then selected it, and more like you picked something and then tried to rationalize your way backward through the arguments to the options.
Edit: oooooh nothing like asking for feedback and then getting pissy when you get it.
Agreed, I also eat meat but I'm not going to frame it like I'm staving off some hardship lol meat is far pricier than 99% of your vegetarian/vegan options. I eat less of it now and skip the cow milk for an alternative and I also don't feel less masculine for doing so!
Just remember that when everyone else has a problem with you, it's everyone else that has the problem.
I absolutely give zero fucks
It was completely reasonable, non-confrontational response that explained why you were being downvoted.
The comment, while reasonable, only served to point out issues with the comment. Which doesn't explain why so many pressed the "this is correct" button.
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