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I would argue that it's quite easy to judge, at any distance, the collective punishment of civilians through the withholding of the essentials of life.
We've a referendum this weekend largely on whether we're ready to confront uncomfortable and complex consequences of a history of colonial violence. What's more difficult is reconciling these sorts of statements from a government that says it is.
The Aboriginal tribes didn't slaughter civilians, or rape and murder aid workers, to be fair.
And the Palestinian population at large has done that have they? Maybe we should judge the so called "settlers" for stealing peoples homes and having picnics while watching Palestinian protestors shot by IDF snipers? Or shall we just pretend that Israel has been the perfect "neigbour"?
Imagine going to bat for Hamas, of all people.
They didn't, maybe you'd be able to read better if you took your head out of your arse?
They're whatabouting the fact that Hamas do, in fact, represent the views of most Palestinians. Comparing them to the Aboriginal tribes is a grave insult to the latter.
Imagine only supporting oppressed peoples when they don't fight their oppressors.
If your support is conditional you are not supporting.
A bunch of teenagers at a music festival are not "their oppressors".
A bunch of rich kids partying on land pissing distance from the walls erected to lock in 2 million Palestinians, which was stolen from those Palestinians grandparents, are most definitely the fucken oppressors here mate.
Especially when you throw in compulsory military service
Or, as the Bolshevik who bayoneted the Romanov children put it, “nits grow up to be lice”
OK, wow.
It wasn't stolen from them, what is currently Israel was British territory prior to ww2.
Administered by Britain but owned by Palestinians
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And Britain never stole anything from anyone, right?
If you go back far enough with that line of reasoning, you end up back at Jewish territory anyway.
So really, they just gave it back to the original owners.
Oh I suppose then it should be given back to the native British then.
"hamas" is quickly becoming an anti-Palestinian slur
It's almost like they're the government or something.
We had a period of frontier wars that lasted 150 years. It was grossly asymmetric but the estimates for colonial casualties run into the thousands.
Were those casualties civilians though, or were they mostly soldiers? That's the key difference.
Good thing war is so blank and white, makes it easier to affirm my side is the good side
There's one side that have done some very questionable things over the years, and there's another that went out of their way to massacre civilians. I'm by no means a fan of Israel, but Hamas are outright evil.