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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Peace in Ukraine? Tell that to all the civilians in Bucha and other places that have bullets in their back, got executed against buildings, or were tied up and shot in the back of the head.

The russians even execute their own men with sledgehammers for being POWs. It's like walking in to Sandy Hook mid-massacre and asking "Why can't we all just be friends?" until you catch some 5.56 like an idiot.

Ukraine should invite these people out to the front to see what it's like, and talk to the civilians in recently liberated areas. Have them talk to the survivors and families of Bucha.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Telling the Ukrainans to compromise will never work. The russians will continue to kidnap their children and push Ukrainans into the sea unless they secure all of their land. And even then, they'll be forced into an Israel-like state of constant bombardment from their neighbors.

It's a shitty fucking deal. But the russian army and government are monsters. And the peace protestors that MTG cheers on aren't on the side of the Ukrainians. Surrendering is not peace to the Russians. It's capitulation.