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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I do the same with DVD's and blue-ray. Frankly, I think digital 'purchases' should be included in that fair-use exception, even if that hasn't been tested in court. I don't think it's been established that digital media qualifies under the fair-use exception of stripping DRM, since each distributor also has a ToS that specifies the 'legal' arrangement of the purchase. I would hope those ToS's would not stand in court against existing DMCA precedent, but I don't have a lot of confidence.

If they were to ever officially disallow it, I think piracy would be 100% morally justified.

[–] GeekyNerdyNerd 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Yeah if nodrm is ever killed by a DMCA action I'd be turning to my local library and Zlibrary (or whatever the closest alternative is today l don't know if Zlibrary still exists or not) exclusively.

If the book publishers are smart they won't kill drm stripping software as nobody who strips drm is gonna keep buying ebooks if they can't do that, the people that don't care already just buy their ebooks because it's stupidly convenient compared to piracy, and often not that expensive anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

No argument here, except with ebooks i think there's little in the way of alternatives if they kill the ability to strip drm. There are simply too many books to reasonably distribute pirated copies if only a handful of people know how to do it. At least with video media there's easily rippable DVD formats, but with books there's basically no reasonable way to create an ebook from a hardcopy.

If they kill ebook drm removers I think they'd be largely successful in increasing ebook sales. There'd be a fair number of people who would return to renting from a library, and even fewer that would resort to piracy, but largely I think normal people would continue buying ebooks.

Don't tell them i said that though.

[–] GeekyNerdyNerd 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm 99% sure it won't have much of a positive impact in sales simply because the majority of ebook buyers don't care about DRM anyway, only the minority of us bother to strip DRM. So while it wouldn't be a large drop in sales I do think it would still be a drop. It might not be enough of a loss for them to care, and tbh as you said it would probably only result in a mild increase in piracy while the majority either do library loans or switch to paper.

I don't think that those of us who care enough to jump through the hoops to strip DRM are just gonna roll-over and accept that the publishers can yoink our entire libraries whenever they see fit, but I do admit most don't care. However those that don't care aren't stripping DRM anyway, they are just relying on the ability to redownload their books whenever they wish from Amazon/Kobo/Nook.

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