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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

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as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

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The only dangerous minority is the rich.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Say it with me: The stock market is not the economy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate the stock market as much as the next guy. Glorified gambling.

But, the stock market is tied directly to the economy

What do you think most people's retirement accounts are tied to?

According to a quick Google, 61% of adults in US own stock. Which means more than half the population has an interest in the stock market not crashing.

Yes the 1% probably owns the majority of stocks. Quick Google says 54% of all stocks.

US Dollar is a fiat currency. It's only backed by the faith of the people behind it.

It can absolutely crash and while the 1% will suffer, we will all suffer at least a little bit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The stock prices wouldn't be affected except in the short term. The fundamentals of the companies wouldn't change and so the price would recover quickly. Any dip is due to a temporary imbalance of buyers and sellers.

These stock sales would likely be spread over longer durations so as not to crash the price which would also be bad for the billionaires because they would have to sell more stock to cover the tax.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Exactly. There are smart ways to implement these taxes. It's not just make them sell and tank the economy. This is all just a system made up by humans, we can control it.