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I know this is just a meme and all but I don't think that holding the opinion stated in the title of this post is going to do anyone any better. Yes, there are some dumbasses who you shouldn't engage with but saying this about the entire 'right' will lead to nothing but further polarisation of opinions in the community, which I think everyone can agree is not a good outcome.
Someone once told me „you can agree with the observation but disagree with the conclusions drawn from them“.
Disagreements are good, being close minded isn't
Mark Twain once said · “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.". Unfortunatly, I think we've reach a point where discussions is mostly useless. Recently, I had a discussion with someone trying to convince me that most young adults are now trans (lol). I told him I teach at college and Univ level, and have not yet seen a single trans person, over the hundred of young adults I had in my classes. I had to cut the conversation short after 10 minutes of him explaining to me why I'm wrong because he watch dozens of yt video that confirms he is right, even if he never step foot in a university.
I disagree. It's best that we systemically and socially deplatform and disenfranchise the right. They have no place in a conversation that's interested in progress and human rights, and they only seek to derail such conversations.
The only effective tool against fascists is exclusion.
I understand where you are coming from. It is true that there is a pretty vocal and decently sized part of the right which became completely fascist and extremist. However I believe, as a person that has opinions from around the whole spectrum, that not all of them are like that. We should try to get along with the ones that are still sane. There are also people of the left that went haywire, but that doesn't mean we should generalize. The right has an extremely big issue, you are right, I just don't think this will help. It'll actually contribute to fascists being able to propagate the hate against the left. I wouldn't say I identify with the version of the right we know today completely, but I certainly could be considered to be in that part of the spectrum. I consider myself to be respectful of other views, as long as they are not extremist or mean to hurt others. That is why it hurts me to see what some are doing to the word "right" with their Nazi ideologies. I would like to finish off clarifying that I am not one of those extremist conservatives or however you wanna call them, and that I'm writing this with the best of intentions possible. Lemmy is a great platform, way more tolerant than reddit, but sometimes its users make mistakes like these and fall into the trap of fascists. This is just my opinion, and I will be happy to hear other points of view.
The right has only 2 sorts. The people who would end democracy and usher in a dark age of fascism and violence and those who would empower them. The ones that seem sane are also your enemies just less obviously offensive. They wont stab you themselves but they will hold you down for the fellow that will.
Okay, find me a right winger who would vote against capital. I know there are some Republicans who would unionize, some who might even appreciate a few regulations. Certainly many who have a bit of compassion for the homeless. I don't know that I've met a right winger who questions the power of people who have money. That there is a 'job creator'.