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Both Republicans likely need the support of Democrats to prevail in their battle over the speakership. Here’s how that could shake out.

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[–] ArbitraryValue 10 points 10 months ago (13 children)

The biggest pocket of votes for Gaetz right off the bat will be the Democrats in the Congressional Progressive Caucus. They hate Gaetz, but more important, it could be suicide for any of the CPC’s 100-plus members to vote to save McCarthy.

Why? Some other Republican will get the role if McCarthy loses it, and McCarthy is relatively moderate by Republican standards. How do progressives benefit from removing him?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is some reason to dems pushing for McCarthys removal. That said, they're never going to vote for Gaetz or whoever he decides to back. Best case scenario for Gaetz is McCarthy gets ousted and we have gridlock for the next year with no speaker.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

It would only take 5 Republican representatives to make Hakeem Jeffries the Speaker. If things keep going sideways within the Republican caucus, one has to wonder if there aren't a handful of moderate Republicans who are sick of the bullshit and support Jeffries. He would still need their votes to pass anything, so they would be incredibly influencial while also sidelining these fools, but the far right would certainly terrorize them

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You are much more likely to get 50 (or even 150!) Democratic votes for a moderate Republican than 5 Republican votes for Jeffries....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

one has to wonder if there aren’t a handful of moderate Republicans who are sick of the bullshit

There aren't. No wondering about it.

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