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Why? Because my drawing skills suck. My computer skills, on the other hand, are excellent. And generating it is "free" (not counting stuff like 10 minutes of electricity supply). I'm not gonna pay someone to vaguely understand what I mean, waiting for who-knows-how-long until they finish it and then reiterating for who-knows-how-long again. Here I generated like 40 pictures until I was satisfied with how they looked. I spent like 10 minutes on it and am happy with the result. At the same time, a Disney-looking Nadja is not so important to me that I would actually pay someone to paint it. I literally did it only for this picture.
So no, this is an entirely different thing.
Typing a sentence into a search bar is not a computer skill.
No, AI is not free. They charge minimum $10 for a few credits to run an algorithm you have to run multiple times, burning through all of your credits, for a final result that looks shitty and can't be customizable.
Human artists actually are cheaper. You're wasting more money on the AI that you could have saved just having a human paint it for you.
Your actual motivation for using AI is to avoid other human beings. For all of your misanthropy, you certainly have no problem letting the most evil humans of all, people who run tech companies, exploit your dislike of others for their benefit, feeding the very beast you hate.
weLL I cAn'T mAkE iT mYSeLF isn't an excuse for you to support a clearly exploitative and abusive industry, especially one that is harmful to yourself. Touch. Grass.
Running AI models takes more skill than "typing a sentence into a search bar", but you obviously don't understand that is possible.
My guy, if you download a model and run it locally, you don't pay anyone. It runs on your computer.
Show me the artist that would do this for the price of ~10 minutes of electricity. Should be a couple cents.
You seem very angry while not really understanding what you're replying to. Maybe calm down a little and reflect on what's going on in your life to make you behave this way?
It literally doesn't but go ahead and keep lying to yourself about your own indolence if that's what makes you happy.
The downloadable models require GPUs that can cost hundreds of dollars.
Most of the AIs out are closed source and proprietary.
You can literally go on fiverr or Deviantart and find artists that cost much, much less than the overpriced GPUs and membership fees you all are paying to fool other people, and yourself, into thinking you have access to talent when you do not.
FTFY
It literally does. I just typed a sentence into my search bar, and it didn't cause an AI model to run on my computer. How can that be? And I can promise you: there is not a single sentence in this world you can type into a search bar that would make my computer do what you describe.
No? Have you not heard of CPU inference?
No? Literally, most models are openly available. Where do you get this idea?
Are you trolling? What membership fees do you think I'm paying when I run models locally? Why do you think I bought my GPU for this purpose?
Not only did you clearly buy a GPU specifically for making this Nadia image, you obviously bought it from Mark Zuckerberg and you're directly funding the corruption of the internet that will lead to the downfall of humanity.
I also kicked a cute looking puppy once for every image generated until I was happy with the result.
Some folks already have GPUs and the chops to run them locally, so they're opting to go that route.
Sure, it might be cheaper and easier for YOU to pay an artist, but you gotta recognize that's due to your own circumstance, not necessarily that of others.
If you don't have the GPU, I believe you're able to use googles colab notebooks to run models, so that's not really much of an issue. Alternatively, rundiffusion is a cloud service that costs 50 cents for an hour.
Stable diffusion is free.
You've argued that it takes no skill to run models yourself, so I expect you to be up and running real quick!
If you don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about, you can't afford a strong opinion like that to be honest.
Everyone that spent 10 minutes on AI knows you're talking bs
Calls AI industry abusive and harmful.
Demands to instead use artists because they are cheap and calls them assholes.