Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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Toxic masculinity is a thing and it needs to be addressed by these large media companies.
My 13 year old was joking about "Andy Tate" in a neutral way so I asked him where he was hearing that name. He couldn't give me an answer but I know he's on discord and YouTube primarily. I know I'm constantly blocking channels with Joe Rogan content (wtf is with the dozens of highlight channels of his drivel?).
I understand freedom of speech but to young impressionable minds this shit is dangerous and I don't think without strong punitive measures these people will stop.
"I'm just asking questions bro"
"Broseph I don't hate women but maybe the hunter/gatherer relationships are important"
"Maybe things were better when things were simpler"
Preying on impressionable minds is what they're all doing without providing any context to their bullshit.
Beyond that, the boys ain't alright. The world continues to shift away from historical patriarchal control and many men are threatened by this and right or wrong many of them feel they're being left behind.
Look at post secondary enrollment numbers by gender trended over the decades. Boys are checking out of the system. It's an uphill battle for me as a father and as a man trying to provide positivity to young boys knowing the ecosystem around them routinely portrays them in an unrealistic light on both spectrums.
The reason Andrew Tate clips get spammed so much is because one of the first things he tells his lemmings to do to "break out of the matrix" is to repost at least one of his clips a day. He even explicitly tells them that the more controversial the clip is, the better
Note I have not seen Andrew Tate on my computer or any other outside of Coffeezilla reporting. Joe Rogan bullshit on the other hand... it's goddamn pervasive.
As an aside I've also noticed the same with twitch streamers who look very similar. MoistCr1TiKaL and Asmongold. I've also blocked both of them because as a father, I get a weird Spidey sense from both of them. I may be wrong, but the similar pattern gives me cause for concern.
My guy out here profiling streamers 💀