this post was submitted on 27 Sep 2023
26 points (78.3% liked)
Europe
8324 readers
1 users here now
News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe ๐ช๐บ
(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, ๐ฉ๐ช ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures
Rules
(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)
- Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
- No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
- No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.
Also check out [email protected]
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Britain will stop being idiotic and will quit electing Tories any day now. Anyyy day.
How long has it been? 10 years? 12 years? They got one rigged referendum, one 6 yo tantrum, one pandemic, one recession and one dead royalty.
I say that had enough.
To be fair the Tories are probably not to blame for that last one.
Another point against them
I dunno, QE2 had to meet up with Truss, a couple days later she's dead.
I mean I'd have a brain aneurysm if I had to meet lettuce lady, who's to say Lizzie didn't ?
I just googled. The last non conservative PM was Gordon Brown in 2007. ๐ฌ
Yeah, still way way better than the tories. IMO a labour or libdem parliament wouldn't have let brexit happen.
Just FYI I'm speaking from the perspective of an American with friends/family in the UK, so I may be a bit ignorant on the topic.
๐
I read somewhere their policies are about 10 degrees of difference so we just tack one way for 10-15 years and then back
They might actually process the asylum claims rather than leaving them in limbo and unable to work, and actually benefit the economy instead of being a cost
We need clean economic growth to fund services, Labour is probably our only chance now the Tories have lurched to the right.
https://labour.org.uk/stronger-together/britain-2030/green-and-digital-future/
Everything does now because of lack of fiscal headroom, things will look wildly different in 18 months.
Both parties are keeping their powder dry. Tories for tax cuts, labour for spend.
Keir is a smart politician, ruthless and compassionate.
Nope, it's just pragmatic politics. If your opponent lurches right, you take the centre. You don't lurch left, if you want to win.
UK moves from centre right to centre left fairly predictably. Thankfully the hard right or left never get the popular vote.
Starmer seems quite boring but effective. I don't have a problem with that. Popularism is much more dangerous.
Well the Labour party tried that in 2019 with the worst results ever, you suggest a repeat?
And his problems were that he and his cohort were too far left to get elected.
Same as Kinnock.
Nothing more than centre left is electable, evidenced by the election results of the last hundred years.
Not being destroyed by the media is the job of political leaders...
Gordon Brown was more principled than Blair, but lacked the media savviness. Remember the 'bigot' open mic gaff ๐
Same. I'm just hoping it's just electioneering