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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[very verbose initial response]

Honestly don't mean this as an insult, but you might want to consider being more concise, so that your point comes across better.

So anyway, people are tired. The fight never ends and some people have fought it for 50 years already. Encourage them to take the third option by all means, but don’t shame them for taking the first option.

I'm not purposely trying to shame people, but I'll definitely get on their cases if they don't push back and let this crap continue.

It's called consumer advocacy, and it shouldn't be shamed away and not done. Those who are causing the problems in society would benefit the most if this happened.

If we all work together, it's been proven that it does turn things around.

They might already be miserable enough.

It's not my fault they're that way, it's the fault of the people making society horrible so they can selfishly make more money for themselves, which must be fought against.

The ones making Society horrible definitely win when no one pushes back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly don't mean this as an insult, but you might want to consider being more concise, so that your point comes across better.

I'm cool with ranting. I enjoy the act of writing, blogs are long dead and it's important to articulate why so many things in the world are fucking shit.

If we all work together, it's been proven that it does turn things around

When?

The ones making Society horrible definitely win when no one pushes back.

They also win when people do push back, because thats how the game has been rigged. The extent of the public's power is making them win slightly less.

The only way to stop companies doing unethical things is strict regulations, ruthlessly enforced. The only times "consumer advocacy" ever works is when the government steps in, which is why the ultra wealthy go to so much effort to ensure they never do.

One good person in politics, with power, is worth a million people boycotting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If we all work together, it’s been proven that it does turn things around

When?

Unions.

They also win when people do push back, because thats how the game has been rigged.

Strawman.

The only way to stop companies doing unethical things is strict regulations, ruthlessly enforced.

Its the most important way, but not the only way.

One good person in politics, with power, is worth a million people boycotting.

Definately agree with this. But its not a zero sum gain, an either/or. Both can happen, and increase the odds of success.