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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Did we kill Linux's killer feature? (lemdro.id)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn't even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple's App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 11 months ago (18 children)

There has always been the option of installing software from source. The package manager won't update anything installed from source.

You don't have to use Flatpak, Snap or AppImage if you don't want to. If you use the package manager to install everything, it will update everything.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Except doesn't ubumtu now force a snap on you even if you try installing a package app?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I'm confused by this. If I run apt install, am I getting stuff from flatpak?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no, you're getting stuff form Snap, not flatpak

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even when I'm running apt directly? That seems insane.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yep, that's why some people are so upset about it. I guess there's a config to disable it but I wouldn't know, I use Arch btw

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