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Yeah, are you going to actually mention what you’re referring to, or continue to broadly gesture at concepts in the hopes that someone will fill in the blanks for you?
Are you intentionally not mentioning that you’re talking about semiconductors because you know I will immediately point out that Chinese manufactures way more semiconductors than the US?
What is your definition of “globalisation working”? Are we still talking about preventing war? If a country is only prevented from going to war because one nation has it over a barrel, that’s not really peace, it’s imperialism.
The semiconductor market is split into two elements: computing and everything else (sensors, power electronics).
Who do you think dominates the compute space?
Weird “split”, I don’t agree with it, but sure, I’ll play along.
For manufacturing, it’s predominantly Asia. China, Taiwan, Korea and Japan are the largest manufacturers of computer components. But a good amount are still made in the US, particularly in Texas, and all over the world there are some other manufacturers.
For design and research, it’s predominantly Asia and western nations, again China, Taiwan, the United States and Japan are prominent, as well as a number of Western European nations such as the United Kingdom.
I really don’t think you know what you’re talking about, do you?
None of that matters for compute, though. I agree that a lot of people design MOSFETs and sensors in China... That's not really relevant in terms of computational capacity. Neither is the capacity to manufacture capacitors and resistors. Neither is the capacity to manufacture small microelectronics because the compute done on them is negligible.
People talk about semiconductors in terms of the computational gap exposed by smaller technology nodes.
…what? I didn’t mention anything that you’re writing about in your comment. I just basically listed countries that have a strong manufacturing or design of microprocessors. For example TSMC in Taiwan, Intel in the US, Samsung in Korea and SMIC in China are some of the biggest players.
You wanna explain how any of this helps prevent war?
SMIC lacked investment for ages and they're all dependent on ASML (until sanctions got the Chinese government to throw billions into building domestic EUV lithography capability, I guess).
It’s so funny how you just have no idea about things until I mention them, and then you Google them to have something to argue about. It’s a bit like ChatGPT. You probably came into this conversation thinking that the only companies that exist are AMD and Intel and now you’re talking about EUV photolithography machines lmao. Excuse me but that’s not relevant to compute that’s microelectronics!!!
Google please help me what is microcontroller? What is RISC-ARM? It means that my limbs are imperilled?
Buddy, do you know what you're talking about? It really sounds like you don't.
The fuck is a RISC-ARM?