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[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Lately the base model is usually last year’s old pro processors and micro controllers. Next year the base 16 will probably have the faster IO if the trend continues.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Completely agree. No company redesigns all of their products each year. They redesign the top tier and then its shifts downward the next year. GPU, CPU, Motherboard, hell even cars do this. Not all models included Carplay and Android Auto when it launched, just the high end cars did, but now all of them do.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

USB IO speed aside, Apple's phones have gotten to the point where 3 and 4 year old chipsets are still VERY performant. They now have the wiggle room to put more bleeding edge silicon in top tier phones, be ok with smaller yields at first, and scale fabrication over the year.

That all being said, given that everyone was going to been eyeing this USB port, they probably should've taken one on the chin and changed the stupid IO speed. Although, the people complaining about this probably aren't Apple's core market anyway. So maybe they were right.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

My XS Maxxx is many many years old at this point and it’s STILL SO FAST!

I’ve also never reformatted it, which is wild.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. And the usb controller is built into the chip.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I suspect next year’s base will have a revised version of this year’s processor. The iPhone 15 Pro has an A17 Pro. This is the first A Series chip with a “Pro” label. I don’t expect something “Pro” to make it into the base model.

What will change between the A17 Pro and the A17? Who knows. It might include the upgraded USB controller though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is Apple at it again, do bare minimum and charge premium. They left USB2 because it required no work, but they had to put type C because EU regulation. Since USB is backwards compatible, solution is just solder half of the connector, charge premium price and fuck you customers. And they are right, people don't care. Instead they go defending it like "I don't need it anyway", "Am not a pro, I don't need it", etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Ah, yes last year. Usb 2.0 was invented in, like what, 2001? A shitty phone cpu from 2 years ago is probably at least as powerful as the pentium 4 I had back in the day. Come the fuck on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Even USB3 is 15 years old already.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Just saying that I wouldn’t be surprised if they were reusing some boards or controllers with limited throughput that their manufacturing plants and fabs were already pumping out. Cook got famous for being an operational efficiency nerd that made sure Apple had very little spare parts and inventory on the books.

But yeah, iPhone physical IO speeds have been slow for a looong time. My guess is that so much of Apple’s install base is syncing over the cloud that it hasn’t been a priority.

The biggest applause at the in-person event was, no lie, for the larger cloud storage plans.