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Meanwhile I'm getting pulled over multiple times for my loud exhaust because my muffler fell off and I don't have the money to fix it.
Then the cop pulling me over has to stop talking as a motorcycle drives by so loud he can't even hear himself.
That's because the law wasn't made because rich assholes, but because broken exhausts, wether by design or by negligence, are a god damn nuisance.
And yet the people who's cars are loud by design are largely ignored because fuck the poor.
"Hey I see your muffler is broken"
"Yeah I don't have the money to fix it"
"Well now you'll have even less money, here's your $150 ticket"
A broken muffler sounds A LOT worse than a purposely thought out muffler delete
Yes yes, we're all aware that something that inconveniences you for all of 5 seconds is worse than someone living at an income low enough to not allow them to fix a non essential part of their only source of transportation.
Or you can just choose to not use car.
Ah, yes, in my rural area that would mean walking or biking 200+ miles per day just for work and even if I was capable of that it doesn't solve the problem of not being able to bring my tools so I can work which weigh hundreds if not a thousand pounds.
And there aren't buses around here, not that it would solve the problem of getting my tools around. I'm all for saving the environment and establishing smaller, walkable cities but it doesn't negate the need for automobiles - yet.
Is this a bit or do you seriously underestimate how much of non-walkable cities depend on cars?
Compared to straight pipe, you would have a short pipe. Being so much closer to the engine, you'd get more noise. Even straight pipe dampens the noise a bit.
In Germany its usually the fast cars that get pulled over for being too loud, my exhaust pipe on my old car was completely rusted through and I drove through a police check where they pull everyone over.
They didnt say anything regarding the exhaust.
I replaced it before the next inspection, because I would have never passed with it rusted through.
at least in Germany there is an inspection...
Where do you live that there isn't?
Fair few states in the US don't have inspections. (And a few that "do" are really limited and almost meaningless. Like Ohio.)
Many states in the US don't have an inspection. I live in one of those states. I once observed someone driving down a highway with four donut spares on their car.
Fair play. I live in Oregon where there are regularly required inspections and emissions testing.
Though granted, in rural counties pretty much anything goes.
Here's in Wisconsin there isn't one
Edit: actually I think Milwaukee has some sort of inspection because they don't want shit in the great lakes but where i am in Wisconsin, no inspection
Florida
Ah, I guess that makes sense. Here in Oregon, unless you live in a rural county, we have regular DEQ inspections and emissions testing.
Probably they seen rusted car and understood that it's not your initention to be loud.
yeah but people actually love loud motorcyclist, right?
https://youtu.be/ylhsbfQTPDQ?si=WMg7tui56hDDTjp1
Maybe don't drive if you can't keep your vehicle road worthy.
If the road can't handle you at your worst then it doesn't deserve you at your best.
Agreed.
Yes you're right fuck poor people how dare they have bills to pay.
Oh and btw my muffler only broke because I was delivering pizzas on shitty side streets. So maybe the problem is cities should maybe fix their roads?
Is car owned by you or by company? If first, bill your delivery company. If last, it's company's headache.
EDIT: Downvotes? FYI in some countries with strong labour laws if employer requires something and does not provide it, then if employee spends money on it, said money should be compensated by employer.
Well. Here poor people need to have legal cars. Not my fault you built your society around vehicles.
I didn't build fuck all.
I was born into this shit.
You can just go fuck yourself
At least do your part and vote for the right side. Fucking cretin
Take your privileged ass somewhere the fuck else.
Was Lemmy always like this, or did it become this way after the mass reddit exodus?
It became this way. Comments got shorter and more aggressive. More edgy memes, more porn, etc.
At this point, I think it's a downward spiral where people are inflaming each other, like what happened on Reddit.
Oh no.. I'm not on here often but noticed this comment section felt like "home" for some reason..
Honestly, they are right. Sucks to suck, but if your breaks were failing, or your tires were bald / showing wire, you shouldn't drive the car untill you fix it. Even if you don't have the money to do so. You endanger the people around you
While I do absolutely understand your point (and agree with you) that's not always going to happen. Some people can't afford to miss work for example, or would get fired for calling out/being late for the tire. I don't necessarily blame those particular people as the deeper problem is a society in which we we're living week to week to get buy and risk losing much if not all if even a portion of that weekly pay doesn't come in.
Also blame employers that pay diddly and are so quick to fire people. They place profit over human life and that's no better.
I wouldn't drive with issues like that, but then again 1: I know cars and work on my own stuff and 2: I can afford to miss a day of work every now and then.
So while I agree and don't support people driving cars with dangerous issues, I also understand that some people are so desperate that it's not really an option, also a mechanic isn't cheap and people don't much help others nowadays.
How is a broken exhaust endangering other people?
Loud noises can startle people, some zones are marked as "no loud sounds" i.e. hospitals and they scare off fauna. Imagine driving through the forrest and spooking an animal that then goes after a guy that is on a walk. Or imagine the same thing in a public park with peoples' dogs. I had my catalytic converter stolen a few years ago and it caused the nearby parked cars to turn on their alarms when I started it. Then there is obviously hearing loss from loud noises. There is also a risk of the exhaust failing further, detaching and hitting another car.
Honestly it doesn't surprise me that the guy gets stopped by cops every time. It's not something that you don't notice when it drives next to you.
I agree with you, but can you make a point without extra insults?
How are they supposed to vote without driving their non "legal car" to the voting center miles away?
Let's see... Train. Bus. Bike. Powered wheelchair. Number eleven.
An exhaust fix costs less than $200 if you want to just make it quiet again or patch it.
You are ether European or 10 years old you need a car to get the money to live and keep it road legal
Nah I'm married, father, living good and not a complete moron. Fix your vehicle. USA is crazy I tell you