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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Russia is a terrorist country. Terrorists can't be negotiated with. #SlavaUkraini

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (41 children)

Russia can't be accepted back into the international community until Putin is in a jail cell or in the ground.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I'd like to believe this, if Putin comes to some peaceful agreement with Ukraine, the international community will just wait until people are distracted by the next big news story and then let Putin back in.

I'd rather be cynical and happily surprised than optimistic and disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually likely not, he's been building international relations similarly to the Russian criminal code of behavior, and while it's sad that even Americans and Europeans would consider this kinda acceptable, now he's shown himself to be weak and humiliated. In other words, of the lower caste, and simply said, a pidor.

So no, he won't be let back in. But some other (in appearances mostly, not in essence) government in Russia may.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

simply said, a pidor.

isn't that some kind of Turkish pizza?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried to look it up, I am only finding that it is a slur used to call people gay when they may or not be. U.S. equivalent seems to be like saying "Suck a dick, fag!" With pidor being the word at the end that would be shunned for being said.

I halted on submitting this over and over because I feel like I am going to get downvoted for using that term even to define a word/usecase. (Then I remembered the points don't matter and intent changes context)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, in Russian it's a swear word meaning a faggot, which refers to prison hierarchy.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would understand if at least 20% of the Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel would be comprised of western volunteers talking about terrorists and no negotiations.

But that is not a thing. So looks a bit ballsy, cause one would think that in a rather apocalyptic war on Ukraine's soil, after they've reclaimed large swathes of territory, they'd be interested in some reduction of monthly casualties and rebuilding various capacities on that territory. Which a ceasefire would provide.

I mean, even if you are right, you are eagerly advocating for spending mobilized Ukrainian lives on a costly offensive.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what a ceasefire would provide

Like the 2014 ceasefire? All it does is give Russia the opportunity to retrench and dig in. When the Ukrainians ask for a ceasefire, then I'll support one.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm only repeating what Ukrainians say. They know any concession with ruzzian terrorists now will only lead to ruzzian terrorists regrouping and reloading to perfom more genocide in a few months/years all over again. The fascist moscow regime needs to be stopped NOW.

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